April 20, 2024

*** This hand was suggested by Ras2829
0*-0  ?
55%
40%
2%
1%
0%
0%
Total votes: 249
zeke76
1405 votes

Joined: August 2018
 
 
 
Saturday 3:29 AM
I fear I’m missing something in a Ras puzzle.
dec
6367 votes

Joined: April 2008
 
 
 
Saturday 3:30 AM
Potential 12 and 2-3 to start with in crib. dec
Gougie00
5739 votes

Joined: March 2008
 
 
 
Saturday 3:46 AM
Changing my mind ... I want to toss 2-3 now ...
kal79 says: I thought the same thing after I tossed 7-7. Hoping for a 6789 from our opponent in the crib…
mrob2199
1442 votes

Joined: February 2009
 
 
 
Saturday 3:56 AM
Can’t really see any other viable options-the 2/3/9/J probably pegs a bit better but severely dilutes the hand potential
MA2906Bptrs
203 votes

Joined: October 2023
 
 
 
Saturday 4:11 AM
I like keeping 779 together and I prefer 23 to the crib, another nice cut
scottcrib
1645 votes

Joined: August 2019
 
 
 
Saturday 4:30 AM
Whether you discard the 2-3 or 7-7, every cut helps. Keeping all mid/highs, decent chance for pair of sevens in the end.
james500
3932 votes

Joined: June 2013
 
 
 
Saturday 5:09 AM
2-3 from me. Great cut.

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MiketheExpert
1131 votes

Joined: April 2021
 
 
 
Saturday 5:10 AM
Although (2 3) is a better rated crib throw than the pair of 7's, do I want to transfer most of my energy to the crib or leave it in my hand here?...Definitely an interesting arrangement. Something doesn't seem quite "right" about the hand left after tossing (2 3), which is admittedly one of my favorite tosses, so today I'll go with the mid-pair. Following reasons: Rather than rely on "one" cut card (as demonstrated today by the 8 cut), the pair can still get help from 3 other cards in the crib. (For other cuts as well, of course!) Next, this hand seems much more pegging-friendly if wanting to choose a more defensive strategy in limiting pone pegs. After the 8 cut, it looks like the wrong choice today...but hey, I could still have a 20-pt crib, so I'll keep my chin up!
Ras2829 says: Hi MiketheExpert: Good insight and 2-3-9-J has higher potential hand score by nearly a full point. Any cut card adds value to 2-3-9-J except 7/8 and either of those are a great boost to the 7-7 in the crib.
Inushtuk1 says: Hi Ras. Yesterday did you keep it your way on offense only because the (5-10) was suited? Would you have played it differently on defense or optimal? And what would you have done on offense, optimal, and defense if the X-Cards were not a pair? thanks for any advice.
Ras2829 says: Hi Inushtuk1: Let me see if I can respond to each of your points as presented above. turns out looking at A-2-2-5-10-10), discard of 5-10D, would still prevail on defense or optimal even though closer. The value of the 5-10 discard to own crib packs enough weight in any strategy to have the edge in combined values. If the X-point cards had not been a pair as with 10-J, J-Q, Q-K, or J-K, the 5-J or 5-K would be the discard choice as available as those are of even higher average than was the suited 5-10 of yesterday.
Inushtuk1 says: Thanks Ras.
sharp21
188 votes

Joined: January 2010
 
 
 
Saturday 5:11 AM
Could have gone either way. The 8 was a lucky break
glmccuskey
4110 votes

Joined: April 2011
 
 
 
Saturday 5:13 AM
Sometimes good decisions are rewarded by a good cut.
bbaer1 says: Or you could say you get lucky! Such is cribbage.
HfxKen
894 votes

Joined: February 2020
 
 
 
Saturday 5:23 AM
2-3 has more value in my crib
Samgash
404 votes

Joined: November 2016
 
 
 
Saturday 5:24 AM
Middle cards relatively less valuable in own crib. Let’s 2-3 it.
HfxKen
894 votes

Joined: February 2020
 
 
 
Saturday 5:25 AM
What would the toss be if it was pone's crib?
zeke76 says: J2?
MiketheExpert says: Either J2 or J9 would seem to be the only considerations.
Inushtuk1 says: (J-9) from me as Pone at this score.
Inushtuk1 says: Pone should keep the Sweet 16.
kal79 says: If it were me it would be J2
Inushtuk1
1494 votes

Joined: July 2016
 
 
 
Saturday 6:21 AM
Keeping the Magic Eleven in my hand. I would have had 12 points in my hand the other way; but as Scott said, either way, all cuts help. Pone may have tossed (X-6), (X-8), or (X-9). So no need to despair yet.
Inushtuk1 says: First play out tossing (7-7). Pone tossed me (4-4). So I got the 12 in my Crib.
kal79
23 votes

Joined: April 2024
 
 
 
Saturday 6:36 AM
Thank you all for the warm welcome yesterday! Tough puzzle today Ras, 2-3 and 7-7 both seem like viable throws to our crib. Both bring value to the crib, 2-3 is a bit more certain to garner 2 or 4 points, but the 7-7 leaves the door open for a jackpot if our opponent throws an 8.

It’s looking like a lot of you threw 2-3 (and it paid off), but I’ll dive into why I went with 7-7. I tossed the 7-7 for a similar reason as yesterday, looking to maintain some pegging flexibility and net 3 or 4 points as the dealer. Seeing the 8 be cut hurts a little (a lot) and is a good reminder of the upside of the 7-7-9-J hand. So, I’ll hope for a X-9-X opening pegging sequence where I can get my 31 and then either just a last card or maybe a pair on the next sequence. Not going to pair and early 2 or 3 lead though. While I want to get my money’s worth pegging, it’s not worth getting reckless on the first hand.

It hurts to see I lost out on a 10 point hand, but I can’t forget my crib now holds at least 6. In the end, we’ll get the jackpot in the crib I mentioned above through the cut. Hopefully we were tossed either a 6 or 9 from our opponent to really make this crib pop 🧨
kal79 says: Correction, I meant to say I lost out on a 12 pointer, not a 10!
MiketheExpert says: Welcome kal79, great insights, and definitely encourage you to keep posting!
Inushtuk1 says: Welcome kal79. What MtE said.
james500 says: Hi Kal.
SallyAnn3 says: kal, please tell me that you are female! I am surrounded by a ot of testosterone on here and need some backup lol
kal79 says: James 👋
kal79 says: Sally, nope, I’m a guy. Further skewing this group towards testosterone!
SallyAnn3 says: Oh wellllll! Not much different than playing live :)
RedTailRogue
735 votes

Joined: December 2021
 
 
 
Saturday 7:37 AM
I almost tossed the 7 7
RubyTuesday
918 votes

Joined: January 2019
 
 
 
Saturday 9:26 AM
7 7 to my crib. Of course I’m wishing I had thrown 2 3 but the turn up is down to luck, not skill.
Ras2829 says: Hi RubyTuesday: Don't despair: Most frequent discards made by n/d feature a mid-card and Q-K. Just one 6-7-8-9 assures 12 points in crib. Also, if n/d picked up 6-8 or 8-9, likely to be of limited or no use in hand with 7-7 among dealer's six. So, crib could be 20 or more. The odds are high that the dozen missed in the hand will show in the crib.
RubyTuesday says: Thank you!
SallyAnn3
912 votes

Joined: March 2020
 
 
 
Saturday 2:35 PM
Always wanting a 5 in my crib when there is a choice.
Coeurdelion
5602 votes

Joined: October 2007
 
 
 
Saturday 2:50 PM
2-3-9-J: Improves with AAAA, 222, 333, 4444, 5555, 6666, 999 + 15xXs = 40 cuts = 40/46 = 87.0% up to 6/7/8pts with AAAA, 222, 333, 4444, 10101010, JJJ = 21 cuts. Plus 10 diamond cuts for 1pt extra for his nob = 10/46 = 0.22pt.

7-7-9-J: Improves with AAAA, 5555, 6666, 77, 8888, 999, 10101010, JJJ = 28 cuts = 28/46 = 60.9% up to 5/6/12pts with 77, 8888, 10101010 = 10 cuts. Plus 10 diamond cuts for 1pt extra for his nob = 10/46 = 0.22pt.

Position:

As First Dealer positional hole is at 8pts so I'll play Defense but try to score the average 16pts or more safely.

Pegging:

I think 2-3-9-J will peg better.

Summary:

7-7-9-J is better for starting value by 1pt but 2-3-9-J has more cuts for improvement and 21 cuts for 6-8pts compared to 10 cuts for 5-12pts with 7-7-9-J. It also should peg better. So I'll throw the 7-7.
Eolus619 says: Welcome back!
Ras2829 says: Hi Coeurdelion: Sure missed your wonderful analysis this past week. Vacation, ill, or just pursuing other interests? Hope you are here to stay for a very long while.
RubyTuesday says: We’ve missed you.
HalscribCLX
5325 votes

Joined: February 2008
 
 
 
Saturday 2:50 PM
At 0*-0 playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_______________Pone's
Defense___Hand_Pegs____Crib_Total___W9 %____W10 %
2-3-9-J____5.26+(-1.96)+5.89=9.19____33.9____46.8
7-7-9-J____4.30+(-2.13)+6.95=9.12____33.5____47.2

Defense______L9 %____L10 %
2-3-9-J_______26.6____27.1
7-7-9-J_______25.3____26.2

2-3-9-J is better for expected averages by 0.07pt. but 7-7-9-J is even on Win %s and slightly lower for Loss %s. Even so as it's the very start of the game I'll decide on expected averages and select 7-7 to discard.

After the 8 cut I'll play Defense to the lead.
Eolus619 says: Welcome back
Ras2829 says: Hi HalscribCLX: How nice for you to again occupy space on this site. Your absence the past week was noted and left a gigantic hole in cribbage knowledge during those days.
RubyTuesday says: And have missed you to.
RubyTuesday says: Oops too not to.
HalscribCLX says: Thank you, I've been a poorly bot. Must have caught a bug!
bbaer1
3701 votes

Joined: February 2011
 
 
 
Saturday 3:22 PM
Fantastic to see you are back with us. All good?
Ras2829
5163 votes

Joined: November 2008
 
 
 
Saturday 6:29 PM
Choosing defense to include the pegging, play off the lead although would take two points for 15 on a 5 or 9 lead.