March 29, 2020
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Total votes: 212 |
JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Sunday 3:11 AM
Now, let's imagine one of those 6 Cards were a CLUB, and let's say the score was something like (102*-109) . . . and then, I would probably . . . do the same exact thing. |
james500 3924 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Sunday 3:13 AM
Lots of options to consider here. (Suited) 2-3 is usually a safe bet. |
dec 6359 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Sunday 3:55 AM
2-2-3 works in the hand also. dec |
RubyTuesday 915 votes Joined: January 2019 |
    Sunday 4:12 AM
I threw 3 3 as more cuts will increase my score than won’t. |
mrob2199 1436 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Sunday 4:52 AM
This hold has the most potential IMO-sacrificing 2 points in the hand to throw 2-3 in the crib rather than 3-3 cwed says: Rob: remember this from Orlando? (See my comment below.) |
horus93 1282 votes Joined: December 2017 |
    Sunday 5:06 AM
1-second decision for me today but I see not everyone agrees. 3-3 is a great toss. |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Sunday 5:55 AM
Best hand and a great toss to the crib. Hand has an expected average of almost 9 points, 14 maximum. |
scottcrib 1637 votes Joined: August 2019 |
    Sunday 6:44 AM
I would rather throw 2-3 suited than 3-3 or 6-6 to crib. You never know when a crib flush may be in your future...just not today. |
mfetchCT425 1400 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Sunday 6:49 AM
Love 2-3 in my crib, but 3-3 is a top 10 toss as well and this hold gives us a shot for 14 with the 8 cut. A, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 cuts all provide us with improvement with many of these cuts giving us an above average hand. Ras2829 says: Hi mfetchCT425: As is so often the case, like your thinking. |
Jazzselke 2587 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Sunday 7:12 AM
Tough call between 22 and 33. Similar cuts would help both 3667 and 2677. The difference for me is an A or 4 cut guarantees 5 points in the crib with 23; only 2 with 33. Jazzselke says: ...between 23 and 33. |
Gougie00 5731 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Sunday 8:10 AM
Tough decision today because I really like that 233 together. I kept my points and tossed 3-3 in the crib.
Raining here in northern Massachusetts. Day 15 of isolation. This responsible citizen is getting a little bored, but I hear they are turning the local gymnasium into COVID-19 sick ward, so maybe I'll just stick around the house a little bit longer. Rosemarie44 says: Hi Greg: Sorry to hear covid 19 is so close to you. Gray skies and possible wintry mix this evening. Social distancing is the key. Stay well. Ras2829 says: Think all honeymoons have been cancelled as nobody has figured how you can succeed at that with 6' distancing. Gougie00 says: Pretty sure the honeymooners are abandoning the advice for separation. Gougie00 says: Might be a spike in births in late December. |
dgergens 938 votes Joined: January 2018 |
    Sunday 8:59 AM
Gee why didn't you thrown a flush in there to make this decision more complicated? I'm sure pone tossed a crappy 3 into my crib, this is going to be a good round. |
joekayak 1873 votes Joined: May 2016 |
    Sunday 9:34 AM
2-3 to own crib hopefully trumps loss of 2 points in hand. I notice that so far all of the commentators do NOT keep 3-3-6-6. |
Ras2829 5155 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Sunday 10:48 AM
Choosing defense as dealer of opening hand, have got to go with the 3-3 discard. Admittedly I love the 2-3 discard to own crib and even have a chance here to add a bit in value by tossing suited combo. Based on my scant empirical evidence tossing 2-3 leaves me with a hand potential of nearly 2.5 points less that discarding 3-3. That's too much of a point loss to recover in the crib. Holding 3-6-6-7 would be my second choice. Third would be holding 2-3-3-7 with 6-6 discard. Given these cards would not even seriously consider holding 3-3-6-6 on my deal. That would be the hand to hold if non-dealer. Knowing that dealer has a guaranteed peg, ten points in hand, and a minimum of four in crib (15 points combined) will play SAFE to protect my advantage, play off the lead (though would pair a 6 or score 15-2 on a 9 lead) and look to picking off a few relatively safe pegs. Ras2829 says: Sure the only pair that scores a higher average than does 3-3 6.075 10/91 to own crib is the 5-5 8.876 1/91. You mean a 3-3 6.075 10/91 scores more than 7-7 5.873 13/91? If you would like to know more about pair averages and rankings to own/opponent crib e-mail raswino29@outlook.com. |
cwed 1355 votes Joined: October 2014 |
    Sunday 2:10 PM
I dealt this hand to myself in the Greater Orlando Open on February 8. There are two ways to hold a total of eight points (toss 2-7 and toss 3-3) and one way to hold six points (toss 2-3). After deliberating longer than I usually do, I tossed 3-3--at which point Rob Medeiros immediately said "bad decision." As it turned out, this ended up being a very good (or least fortuitous) decision, as a 9 was cut and the pone had tossed 3 and the right Jack. I ended up with a 10-hand and a 13-crib. By way of comparison, tossing 2-7 yields 14+1, and tossing 2-3 yields 8+9. |
Coeurdelion 5595 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Sunday 2:55 PM
I'll look at three keeps - 2-6-6-7 (3-3), 3-3-6-6 (2-7) and 3D-6-6-7 (2-3C):
2-6-6-7: 6pts + 5¾pts (Schell: 5.94) = 11¾pts 3-3-6-6: 8pts + 4pts (Schell: 3.81) = 12pts 3-6-6-7: 4pts + 6¾pts (Schell: 7.00) = 10¾pts Potential: 2-6-6-7: Improves with AAAA, 222, 33, 5555, 66, 777, 8888, 9999 = 26pts = 26/46 = 56.5% up to 10/12/14pts with 222, 5555, 66, 777, 8888, 9999 = 20 cuts. 3-3-6-6: Improves with 33, 66, 9999 = 8 cuts = 8/46 = 17.4% up to 14/18/20pts with all cuts. 3-6-6-7: Improves with 222, 33, 5555, 66, 777, 8888, 9999 = 22 cuts = 22/46 = 47.8% up to 8/12pts with 222, 33, 5555, 66, 8888, 9999 = 19 cuts. Position: Aa First Dealer I'll play Defense. Positional hole is 8pt but I'll try to score the average 16pts or more. Pegging: Playing Defense 3-3-6-6 will probably be best but the other two will be OK as well. Summary: 3-3-6-6 has the best starting value by ¼pt over 2-6-6-7 but the latter has the most cuts for improvement and 20 cuts for 10-14pts. So even though 3-3-6-6 has the best maximum and will peg well Defensively I'll throw 3-3. |
HalscribCLX 5318 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Sunday 2:59 PM
At 0*-0 playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
_______________Pone's Defense__Hand__Pegs__Crib__Total____W9 %____W10 % 2-6-6-7___8.87+(-2.20)+5.55=12.22____42.8____54.9 3D-6-6-7__6.65+(-1.91)+6.85=11.59____40.5____52.7 2-3-3-7___8.09+(-2.22)+5.42=11.29____39.9____50.6 3-3-6-6___9.48+(-2.02)+3.41=10.87____37.6____51.4 Defense______L9 %____L10 % 2-6-6-7_______25.8____20.4 3D-6-6-7______26.3____22.2 2-3-3-7_______29.4____24.8 3-3-6-6_______24.5____22.7 2-6-6-7 is best for expected averages by 0.63pt and is slightly best for Win %s and lowest for Loss %s. So I'll select 3-3 to discard. After the 9 cut I'll play Defense to the lead. |