March 25, 2020

*** This hand was suggested by thelawnet
37-43*  ?
53%
34%
10%
0%
0%
Total votes: 216
mrob2199
435 votes

Joined: February 2009

   
Wednesday 3:28 AM
A-4-5-6 is the best pegging hand in cribbage a pone can hold-lead the A and it’s possible we peg 4-6 points
dec
5003 votes

Joined: April 2008

   
Wednesday 4:17 AM
I am glad you were on first. A former club member you might have heard of him Dave S. advise on using type this of hand as non dealer. I have used this one now often. I just was not sure in these positions it was worth giving up a point with a potential sixteen hand to do it this way. But I feel more confident now. Ace lead? dec
Andy (muesli64)
1811 votes

Joined: August 2009

   
Wednesday 4:31 AM
My usual throw here. 2 - K.
JQT
2951 votes

Joined: October 2008

   
Wednesday 5:32 AM
Toss (A 2) is too risky, and the FLUSH is a total red herring, so it's Toss (2 K) today.

The Keep (A 4 5 6) Hand is often good for a Pegging 'Hat Trick' after we lead our Ace, as this is one of the finest Cribbage Pegging Hands on *either* side of the board.
mfetchCT425
635 votes

Joined: February 2009

   
Wednesday 5:37 AM
Along with 2-3-4-6 (lead the 3), this is one of the best pegging hands for pone in the deck. Lead the ace with this hand and very often you will outpeg the dealer.
james500
2613 votes

Joined: June 2013

   
Wednesday 5:45 AM
Looks like today will be a learning opportunity for me.
Rosemarie44
1677 votes

Joined: March 2016

   
Wednesday 6:14 AM
Looks like I'm with you in class, James500. I like starting with 7 points and a chance for 16.
Gougie00
4394 votes

Joined: March 2008

   
Wednesday 6:48 AM
I'll chance the A-2 as well.
wasa
1724 votes

Joined: November 2014

   
Wednesday 6:57 AM
Interesting way to peg on the A-4-5-6. I think I prefer the sure two points but interested to see what HAL says
cribbagepogo
3001 votes

Joined: October 2007

   
Wednesday 7:42 AM
Love this combo, hate throwing A2. Too many big cribs with that combo.
JRCeagle78
943 votes

Joined: June 2016

   
Wednesday 9:40 AM
Other than first count in the end game, there are few instances where I would not keep this hand. By leading the Ace I should peg more than a 4 lead. If I lead the 4 or 6 the 5 card is left with only half of his supporting cast and the pone is more likely to play that card and get no points for it.
dgergens
679 votes

Joined: January 2018

   
Wednesday 11:19 AM
I don't have any qualms throwing A,2 to an opponent and have not had any bad experiences doing so. I'm surprised to read the comments on how dangerous A,2 is to give dealer.
Ras2829
3857 votes

Joined: November 2008

   
Wednesday 11:21 AM
Am thinking off. off, once seeing the starter card knowing that I have 14 points and will deal from strong position (2nd street CPZ is 43-47), will shift down a notch and pursue an optimal pegging strategy. See my reply to mrob2199 above as to how RAS would approach the pegging. If choosing a defense pegging strategy, the 4 is the card to lead. No defense for me with opponent dealing at hole 43.
Coeurdelion
4314 votes

Joined: October 2007

   
Wednesday 3:37 PM
I think it's between 4-5-6-K (A-2) and A-4-5-6 (2-K):

4-5-6-K: 7pts - 5pts (Schell: 5.07) = 2pts

A-4-5-6: 5pts - 4½pts (Schell: 4.45) = ½pt

Potential:

4-5-6-K: Improves with AAA, 3333, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 9999 + 15xXs = 39 cuts = 39/46 = 84.8% up to 11/14/16pts with 444, 555, 666, KKK = 12 cuts.

A-4-5-6: Improves with AAA, 3333, 444, 555, 666, 7777, 8888, 9999 + 15xXs = 43 cuts = 43/46 = 93.5% up to 8/9/12/14pts with 3333, 444, 555, 666, 9999 + 15xXs = 32 cuts.

Position:

Dealer is 1pt short of the 44pt positional hole while we're well short of the 60pt we would like to be. However we only need 7pts to reach 44pts so I'll play Offense to try to exceed this position.

Pegging:

A-4-5-6 will peg better with lower cards and a 3-card magic eleven.

Summary:

4-5-6-K has a starting value 1½pts higher but A-4-5-6 has more cuts for improvement and more for a good/very good hand. The maximum is not as high as 16pts but still has the same cuts (555) for 14pts. It also should peg considerably better and the 2-K discard achieves the objective of holding dealer back while A-2 might work with the common 2-3 discard to our disadvantage. So all in all I'll throw 2-K.
RubyTuesday
530 votes

Joined: January 2019

   
Wednesday 3:42 PM
I threw A 2, am very interested to see how many threw K 2.
HalscribCLX
4079 votes

Joined: February 2008

   
Wednesday 3:50 PM
At 37-43* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

______________Our
Offense__Hand_Pegs__Crib___Total___W6 %____W7 %
A-4-5-6___8.93+2.24+(-4.25)=6.92____33.4____40.2
2-4-5-6___8.54+2.02+(-3.94)=6.62____29.7____38.1
4-5-6-K___9.76+1.15+(-4.75)=6.16____31.2____37.6

Offense_____L6 %____L7 %
A-4-5-6______42.2____41.4
2-4-5-6______41.1____43.6
4-5-6-K______43.7____44.5

A-4-5-6 is best for expected averages by 0.30pt over 2-4-5-6 and 0.76pt over 4-5-6-K and is best for Win %s by a significant margin and slightly lowest for Loss %s. So I'll select 2-K to discard.

After the 5 cut I'll lead the 4 and play Defense:

Lead___________Dealer's Pegging Pts.
4____________________(-1.96)
A____________________(-2.15)
6____________________(-2.69)
5____________________(-2.89)