October 5, 2019
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Total votes: 150 |
JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Saturday 3:09 AM
20 cuts for a dozen. |
dec 6357 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Saturday 3:23 AM
If scores were diferent I might entertain Q-4 but 15 face cards to hard to ignore. dec |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Saturday 3:51 AM
My first choice is to hold this hand and toss 8-Q. Twenty six cuts increase the value from 8 to 12 points is hard to ignore. Wonder how tossing A-8 which has a higher value will fair in Hal's line up? Rosemarie44 says: To be more specific, A-8 has a higher value than tossing 8-Q. Rosemarie44 says: To be more specific, A-8 has a higher value than tossing 8-Q. |
james500 3922 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Saturday 4:50 AM
X(10)-8(18)-X(28)-A(29-go-A(30/2)-(31/8) would be most welcome.
A-8 is probably the better choice though. JQT says: Yes, this is the sort of pegging hand that, as Dealer at a score of say (112*-117), could actually peg an unanswered Ten Holes. But at Hole 99, I think we need Hand Strength to obtain a better position. |
mfetchCT425 1398 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Saturday 6:44 AM
Keep best possible chance for 12 in hand. 9 or any face cut. |
Jazzselke 2586 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Saturday 6:59 AM
Great puzzle. If we hold AAA4 we throw balking cards to our own crib. If we keep AAA8 tremendous pegging is possible, but 4Q would be dead with the aces out of circulation. And if we hold AA4Q, we have the best throw of the 3 scenarios to our crib, but the potential of our hand is diminished. So IMO we should keep the best hand possibility. |
Gougie00 5729 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Saturday 7:12 AM
Where's the face card? Arghgh!
Still a chance to parlay the AAA. |
joekayak 1873 votes Joined: May 2016 |
    Saturday 9:59 AM
Need help. Best chance to get it. Oh well, maybe a 9 in the crib. I still have first count next deal. |
Coeurdelion 5594 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Saturday 1:14 PM
A-A-A-4 (8-Q) or A-A-4-Q (A-8):
A-A-A-4: 6pts + 3¾pts (Schell: 3.80) = +9¾pts A-A-4-Q: 6pts + 3¼pts (Schell: 3.19) = +9¼pts Potential: A-A-A-4: Improves with A, 444, 888, 9999 + 15xXs = 26 cuts = 26/46 = 56.5% up to 12pts with A, 9999 + 15xXs = 20 cuts. A-A-4-Q: Improves with A, 3333, 444, 5555, 9999 + 15xXs = 31 cuts = 31/46 = 67.4% up to 10/12pts with A, 444 + 15xXs = 19 cuts. Position: Pone needs 13pts to get out so I'll peg Defensively to restrict heir scoring as much as possible. Pegging: Pegging Defensively I think both will peg well but perhaps A-A-4-Q with the Q out card slightly better. Summary: A-A-A-4 starts with ½pt more and although it has 5 fewer cuts for improvement it has 20 cuts for 12pts compared to 19 cuts for 10/12pts. The A-8 discard will also have some negative delta as we hold two more As. I think A-A-4-Q may peg somewhat better but even so I favor A-A-A-4 and I'll throw 8-Q. |
HalscribCLX 5317 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Saturday 1:49 PM
At 99*-108 playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
________________Pone's Defense___Hand__Pegs___Crib_Total____W1 %___W2 % A-A-A-4___8.87+(-1.96)+3.26=10.17____3.7____43.0 A-A-4-Q*__8.48+(-2.33)+3.60= 9.75____1.8____39.7 Defense_______L1 %___L2 % A-A-A-4_______21.9___53.1 A-A-4-Q*______19.3___57.4 * suited A-8 A-A-A-4 is better for expected averages by 0.42pt and is appreciably better for Win %s and slightly lower for Loss %s. So I'll select 8-Q to discard. After the 7 cut I'll play Optimally to the lead (cautious offense). |
cribbagepogo 3251 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Saturday 5:51 PM
Not that I like breaking up AAA4 but keep the same amount and get to throw A8 into crib better than 8 Q. |
Ras2829 5153 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Saturday 9:50 PM
Just too much potential hand value with A-A-A-4 as that remaining Ace and all cards 9-K score 12 points. So it's the 8-Q to own crib. BTW it's that way about half the time - dealer drops "garbage" to own crib. Thinking def. when picking up cards, when discarding, once seeing the non-helpful starter card (2 points known in crib), will shift gears to an optimal pegging strategy. |
dgergens 938 votes Joined: January 2018 |
    Saturday 11:59 PM
had to try for it
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