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Total votes: 157 |
JQT 4143 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Saturday 3:00 AM
Depending upon Pone's location with respect to us, being the Dealer at Hole 117, vs. Hole 118, vs. Hole 119, vs. Hole 120 are all very distinct and unique endgame scenarios in Cribbage.
At Hole 119, we know we shall peg our One Hole minimum, but we also know that this will only get us half way to Victory. Ah, there's the rub! Right off the bat, we notice that our chances of obtaining a game-winning Jack Cut have been cut in half, from 8.7% down to about 4.3%, so we are very sorry to see any Jacks here, and their "value" of being able to score a point for Nobs is totally useless to us today. Thus, let's get down to business. Therefore, we wish to either PAIR or (15-2) our way to the Finish Line any way we can. One of the most reliable ways to score more than just one point while pegging as either Dealer OR Pone is to retain a very "small" PAIR and seek to "PEAR" ourselves into Victory after a "go" by our opponent. This of course refers to our "Golden" Aces. But the next most popular way to score Two Points is to match or PAIR or score (15-2) upon our opponent, and we can best do this by retaining as unique a hand as possible. In this sense, this is a bit like yesterday's puzzle. As possible scoring cards, the Jacks do have some value, as Dealer it's often wise to hold either two cards that add up to fifteen, or to hold two cards that are a PAIR, as our final two cards played when pegging. It's just that this tactic is not nearly as productive as the first two aforementioned scoring methods. By combining the first two ideas above, quite readily we arrive at Keep (A A 8 Q) and Toss (J J). This both maximizes our chances to score our Aces "back to back" after a "go," and it rids ourselves of the "common" Jacks, which are the two cards that Pone is LEAST likely to be holding. Guest says: Pear JCM says: "...being the Dealer at Hole 117, vs. Hole 118, vs. Hole 119, vs. Hole 120 are all very distinct and unique endgame scenarios in Cribbage." - Could you be kind enough to let us know a little about being dealer at 117,118 and 120? Many thanks in advance. JQT says: My point is that whether we need one, two, three, or four (or more) points as the Dealer to win, depending on Pone's position as well, these all often require somewhat varying tactics and skills to increase our odds of winning and of prevailing. Look over the previous decade (and then some!) of 'Hand of the Day' Puzzles and you will find hundreds of examples. Dealer can have hopes of pegging out from about Hole 115 if dealt the right cards, but it requires that we learn how to master this endgame Pegging, which can take decades of learning. I have many such interesting endgame scenarios (snapshots) from various Halscrib Games posted on my Facebook Page, which is open to all, world-wide, to review. JQT says: For example, on Nov 10, 2016, I had (118*-112) with Keep (3 6 8 T) Toss (J J), and pegging went: 4 (4) 6 (10) T (20) T (30=3). Also, on Sep 5, 2009, a most interesting loss occurred from (113*-114) with Keep (5 6 7 7) Toss (4 T), and I lost by a lousy, stinking, single hole ... made it all the way to Hole 120! But I'm no longer mad! |
HalscribCLX 5312 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Saturday 3:17 AM
At 118*-111 playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the Peg Out %s are the most important:
Offense_____Peg Out % A-5-5-7______84.7 4-5-7-Q______78.8 A-5-7-Q______77.0 4-5-5-7______77.0 A-4-5-7______76.3 A-4-5-5______74.4 5-5-7-Q______74.1 4-5-5-Q______74.1 A-4-5-Q______68.2 A-4-7-Q______65.3 A-5-5-Q______61.3 A-5-5-7 has the best chance of Pegging Out so I'll select 4-Q to discard. After the Q cut I'll play Defense to the lead. HalscribCLX says: Oops forgot to post! |
mrob2199 1428 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Saturday 3:23 AM
Keeping the queen instead of one of the jacks just for pure mathematics-if pone leads a jack king or 10 play your queen on it to coax a picture card response to 30-otherwise youll probably have to play it to get your aces in at the end |
dec 6351 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Saturday 3:25 AM
Let me count the possibilities. 1.Pairing any of the four cards we kept during play. 2. Play an eight on a seven lead 3. Fifteen the Queen on a five lead (not likely). Now the calculated chances 4. Finish a thirty one 5. Get two goes 6. Last get a go and get last card. At least eight chances. Of course there is always a chance they are short on their first count also... Chance that one? dec |
Ras2829 5146 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Saturday 3:36 AM
mrob2199 states "keeping the queen instead of one of the jacks just for pure mathematics". Yes there are three Queens available and only two Jacks this day. More likely to peg with the Queen although she is not a strong pegger. In this case, has more chance to peg than a Jack. If dealer is unable to pick up two pegs early, must keep Aces together for possible back-to-back play at end of pegging sequence. Ras2829 says: Needing two pegs why would you play defense to the lead? Are you concerned that if pairing an 8 or Q your opponent might triple for six? Would you avoid 15-2 on a seven lead cause it would give n/d a chance to score a run? |
james500 3916 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Saturday 3:44 AM
Get the count high with an X, and then play the Aces back-to-back. |
Gougie00 5723 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Saturday 5:17 AM
Gotta keep the AA to parlay them. |
Jazzselke 2583 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Saturday 6:17 AM
Unanimous by all commenters so far. Guest says: Not me - there is one less chance he would have a jack. |
zeke76 1389 votes Joined: August 2018 |
    Saturday 6:55 AM
Made the foolish mistake of keeping a jack rather than the queen. |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Saturday 7:02 AM
Thank you all for today's cribbage lesson. End games are especially challenging for most but especially me.. Great comments on today's hand. |
JCM 910 votes Joined: April 2019 |
    Saturday 8:17 AM
I'm with Rosemarie!
Lots for me to learn from the endgame comments here. |
horus93 1281 votes Joined: December 2017 |
    Saturday 8:58 AM
Similar to yesterday - I want to discard to maximize my chance of taking pegs but if I can't take any I'm going to want to be playing defense. I wasn't willing to start with 0 either. Surprised this is only 33% |
RubyTuesday 908 votes Joined: January 2019 |
    Saturday 11:12 AM
I wanted as mixed a hand as possible after keeping AA but didn’t consider that I’d be unlikely to be able to pair a J. My mistake. |
HalscribCLX 5312 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Saturday 2:41 PM
At 119*-112 playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the chances of pegging out are:
Offense_____________Dealer Peg Out % A-A-8-Q__________________91.6 A-A-8-J__________________90.8 8-J-J-Q__________________83.2 A-A-J-J__________________79.6 A-A-J-Q__________________78.0 A-8-J-J__________________64.8 A-8-J-Q__________________62.4 A-J-J-Q__________________61.6 A-A-8-Q is slightly better than much better than A-A-8-J but these are both much better than the next. So I'll select J-J to discard. After the 7 cut I'll play Defense to the lead |