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Total votes: 161 |
dec 6358 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Monday 3:25 AM
Between Q-7 or Q-4. Twelve cuts (2,5,6) for hand count out compared to Twelve cuts also (5,6,8) for similiar result. If we cut a three or a nine we need at least to peg. So I need some insight if miracle pegging keeping 3-4-6-7 might induce that miracle finish. dec orvani says: 2,5,6 or 5,6,8 are just 11 cuts orvani says: but I olso picked that one |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Monday 3:47 AM
First disaster is this hand cannot bring us easily to the 7 points we need to peg and count out - I show 11 eleven cuts (5555, 666 for 8 points and 2222 for 9 points.
Second disaster - the starter card of a Jack gives opponent 2 points right off the bat and does help us one bit! Rosemarie44 says: dec adds that 6 cuts (333, 999) brings us to 6 points requiring us to peg. |
glmccuskey 4101 votes Joined: April 2011 |
    Monday 4:32 AM
With only two points I’ll lead the nine, keeping the 3-4-6 together in hopes of getting into a pegging war. |
james500 3923 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Monday 5:14 AM
A few useful cuts available, but the Jack of spades isn't one of them. 6 lead. |
Gougie00 5730 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Monday 5:37 AM
Everyone so far is in accord. 3469 is probably the best pegger. The Jack doesnt help, so its time for some creative pegging. Lead the 9 and play obnoxious offense. |
Jazzselke 2586 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Monday 5:44 AM
I saw this hand played in a playoff match, the pone held 3467, looking for 2,5 or 8, 12 cards. But as Dec points out, 3469 has 6 extra cards that gives us 6 points, the 3 or 9. BTW, S:) finished 2nd yesterday in a consolation tournament, way to go! zeke76 says: That interesting. The Q9 toss you saw in a match comes in way down the list of hands for in the hand score only (Avg hand score 3.1). Even 34, 37, and 47 score better before thinking about pegging (of course, since we probably will need to peg, keeping the Q is sub-optimal). Guest says: Thanks! S:) Tough opps--all friends, so that doesn't help LOL. I was in position to win in the final game, but he got a gut shot 17 hand being 16 out. Oh welllll. S:) |
zeke76 1396 votes Joined: August 2018 |
    Monday 6:03 AM
As others have stated, I think this hand gives us the best chance to go out (including pegging).
Since we only care about offense and pegging, the numbers from Brown on offense: Q7-4.3 Q3-4.3 Q4-4.2 Of course, we don't really care about averages either. It's 7 points or bust, so it's the number of hands that can get us 7 (or maybe 5-6 hoping we can peg 1-2). |
JRCeagle78 1054 votes Joined: June 2016 |
    Monday 6:52 AM
Play offense, cross your fingers and toes, and say a few words to the "cribbage gods". It might just get you to the emerald city. |
horus93 1281 votes Joined: December 2017 |
    Monday 6:55 AM
I did it thisaway horus93 says: And checking my gut on paper it looks like this has the same number of cuts to win outright as 3-4-6-9 (8) and fewer cuts for four or less (25 cuts for this keep, 29 cuts for 3-4-6-9). horus93 says: unless I screwed that up |
dgergens 938 votes Joined: January 2018 |
    Monday 8:28 AM
I believe we have no/low chance of dealer not winning if they get to count, so need 7 points. And that requires a miracle. I will be interested to see the numbers, because I wondered if holding 3457 was the better chance for a miracle cut. But in the end kept the 2 for sure points and hope for a good cut and some good pegging. dgergens says: you know I meant 3467 |
mfetchCT425 1399 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Monday 9:13 AM
Like this hold slightly better than the other options. With unfavorable cut, will lead the 9. We’re in trouble here. |
mrob2199 1435 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Monday 12:10 PM
The 3-4-6-9 gives us the best chance for trapping a 5 for a potential 5 points -which is obviously needed since the cut didn’t help at all-lead the 9 and play the 4 if dealer responds with a picture-it’s probably doubtful he left himself with a bare 5 but it is your only chance of winning Ras2829 says: Hi mrob2199: Guess should have read your post first and could have said ditto! Like your thinking and appreciate your frequent "The Inside Track" advice in Cribbage World. Guest says: Much appreciated Ras! |
Ras2829 5154 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Monday 2:02 PM
The greater combined value favors discarding the 7-10. Knowing we have only two points after the cut of that lousy Jack, and dealer benefits by two points for turning it,it's off., off., BOLD. That's what necessitates leading the 9 as it leaves us with three cards tightly clustered. We need a run of four with a go. RAS likes the 6 lead from this hand if needing fewer pegs. Got to go for the win although the chances are slim. There is also a chance that dealer would play a trey on the nine lead, since the 9 is our sleeper card. When a deuce is cut, this hand scores 9 points and is frequently under-scored. If dealer plays a small card on the 9 lead, have to play on it either to pair or 15-2. Am not the least concerned what dealer pegs here. It's only my pegs that matter. Got to go for the win here as dealer got two for the Jack, a guaranteed peg before scoring hand or crib. What are chances of limiting dealer to 8 points total? That's 1 of 14 with first count coming up. This game is history unless we can win on this deal. Guest says: See a typo here - 7-10 should read 7-Q. Rosemarie44 Ras2829 says: Hi Rosemarie44: Yup - meant to key 7-X! Guest says: Hi Ras2829: Only Hal does not agree with us! |
Coeurdelion 5595 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Monday 2:56 PM
I think we must hold the 2pts so that suggests discarding 7-Q, 4-Q or 3-Q:
We need 7pts or more to go out. 3-4-6-9: 9pts: 2222 8pts: 5555, 666 6pts: 333, 999 Total Cuts = 17 3-6-7-9: 8pts: 666, 8888 7pts: 5555 6pts: 333 , 999 Total Cuts = 17 4-6-7-9: 8pts: 5555, 8888 6pts: 2222, 444, 666, 999 Total Cuts = 21 3-4-6-9 and 3-6-7-9 have 11 cuts for 7pts or more compared to 8 for 4-6-7-9. But 4-6-7-9 has more cuts overall. So I'll throw the 3-Q. |
HalscribCLX 5318 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Monday 3:02 PM
At 114-109* playing a Bold strategy for the pegging the Win %s are:
Offense_____________Win % 4-6-7-9_____________50.8 3-4-6-9_____________49.7 3-6-7-9_____________48.0 6-7-9-Q_____________45.8 3-4-6-7_____________38.7 So I'll select 3-Q to discard. After the J cut I'll lead the 4 and play Offense: Lead______________Our Pegging Pts. 4______________________1.59 9______________________1.51 7______________________1.47 6______________________1.43 |
LoneStarPegger 811 votes Joined: January 2008 |
    Monday 8:07 PM
I matched HAL. But as all have stated, I need a miracle... Or really good distraction. |