May 13, 2019
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Total votes: 175 |
Joined: April 2008 (6855 votes) Monday 3:10 AM
Not keen on 3-6 and 2-3 is out of the question here unless I really needed a three point win here. Alas 3-6 might be the more viable choice at least still have a chance to hit that 85 goal with this keep. Lead the six of hearts and muddy the pegging here. defense. dec |
Joined: March 2016 (2240 votes) Monday 3:24 AM
Chose the safer 3-6 to opponent's crib. This hand has 15 cuts for 12 or 16 points. Defense. Rosemarie44 says: Great hand, james500. james500 says: Thanks for the kind words Rosemarie, but I can't take the credit for it. The computer dealt it to me. |
Joined: June 2013 (4345 votes) Monday 3:53 AM
Don't need to travel far, but need to prevent Dealer from doing so. No to 2-3 and the flush then, but either of an offsuit 3-6, 3-7 or 2-7 could work. I'll try 3-6 (with a second 6 known to be out of circulation). Ras2829 says: Hi james500: Whatever the source, appreciate you submitting a puzzle of such quality. |
Joined: April 2011 (4483 votes) Monday 3:57 AM
I lead the seven of diamonds and peg as defensively as I can. If dealer plays an eight I’ll escape with my two. |
Joined: January 2018 (940 votes) Monday 4:19 AM
My thinking seems in line with current voters. |
Joined: March 2008 (6171 votes) Monday 5:23 AM
Interesting puzzle. I tossed 3-6 because I already know where one of the sixes are. Not tempted by the flush or holding 6677. Lead the 7 of diamonds. If the dealer has a similar hand we will get creamed. Use the 2 to escape run situations.
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Joined: February 2009 (1632 votes) Monday 5:26 AM
Like the 3-6 toss here. A 2nd 6 already accounted for and we get 16 if an is cut with this hold vs. 14 if we hold 2-6-6-7. I might lead the 2 here. If opponent plays a face, would play my 7d (flush fake). If he plays 8/9, would play my 6. If he plays a 7 would play 7d with chance to peg big with pairs royal. 6 response, 7d again. If he plays a 5 or lower, 7d again. mfetchCT425 says: * if an 8 is cut with this hold...* mfetchCT425 says: * meant double pairs royal above: pegging sequence of 2,7,7,7,7 (30 for 12 and probably a go). |
Joined: December 2017 (1330 votes) Monday 6:33 AM
At +8/-2 holding good cards this is a pretty defensive position. I only really thought about 3-6 and 3-7 and went with 3-6 as it's obv the safer of the two and both hands start with 6.
Our goal isn't 85, our goal is to be dealing a few points past 70 next hand (attainable without pegging anything w these cards) and to keep opponent from being pone at 86+. I'd play fairly defensively and lead the 7 but seeing as we only hold 6 points, we're still just coming into third street and double pair royals are one of the rarest occurrences in the game I'd triple if opponent pairs it. |
Joined: December 2018 (513 votes) Monday 9:24 AM
I will take my chances with the 63 offsuit toss.....Barlow specifically talks about never giving combos totaling 10 into opponent's crib............. |
Joined: March 2009 (2865 votes) Monday 9:35 AM
Late to the party, it's all been said. No need to take chances, and 36 safer than 37 knowing of a second 6. |
Joined: October 2007 (3302 votes) Monday 1:28 PM
Don't want to give away a 7 the only reason this is better than the 2,6,6,7. |
Joined: November 2008 (5496 votes) Monday 2:09 PM
It pays to flush! Here we have a flush that benefits from the cut of any denomination and from those remaining diamonds. Besides the potential pegging value of 2-3-6-7 is much superior to other available combinations. It matters not whether playing defense or offense, the 2-3-6-7 has the edge. With dealer at hole 68, want to minimize dealer pegs. That three-card eleven (2-3-6) gives me a clear chance to do so. Since choosing a defense pegging strategy, will lead the trey. Would play the six if dealer puts a 10-point card on my trey and plan to close the count at 31-2 with the deuce. If choosing offense, would have taken the 15-2 with the deuce and hoped to close the count at 31 with the six. That's my take on it. Guest says: Hi Ras: I am still waiting in suspense from yesterday's hand!. No comments from anyone! Rosemarie44 Ras2829 says: Hi Rosemarie44: I was very late voting yesterday so didn't comment. I chose the flush yesterday as well as combined values were slightly higher and holding the trey with the 3 other spades gave me a safer hand from which to peg. HalscribCLX is right on today with the lead of the deuce if playing safe. Dumping the five on the next play would also be the right course of action. Those are the two most likely cards in this hand to result in some pegging damage by dealer. Purpose of a safe strategy is to limit pegs of opponent. Besides that after the first two cards played, some distance has been gained between the remaining cards of 3-7. |
Joined: October 2007 (5766 votes) Monday 4:54 PM
I think the choice must be between 2-3-6D-7D (6H-7H) and 2-6D-7-7 (3-6H):
2-3-6D-7D: 6pts - 6pts (Schell: 6.42) = 0pt 2-6D-7-7: 6pts - 5pts (Schell: 4.87) = 1pt Potential: 2-3-6D-7D: Improves with AAAA, 222, 333, 4444, 5555, 66, 77, 8888, 9999 + 16xXs = 46 cuts = 46/46 = 100.0% up to 9/10/11/12 with AAAA, 222, 333, 4444, 5555, 66, 77, 8888 = 26 cuts. Plus 9 diamonds for 1pt extra for the flush = 9/46 = 0.20pt. 2-6D-7-7: Improves with AAAA, 222, 5555, 66, 77, 8888, 9999 = 23 cuts = 23/46 = 50.0% up to 12/16pts with 222, 5555, 66, 77, 8888 = 15 cuts. Position: Dealer is 2pts short of positional hole but we're 18pts short of where we need to be so I'll play Offense. Pegging: I think the flush will peg better and be harder to read. Summary: Although the starting value of 2-3-6D-7D is 1pt less than 2-6D-7-7 (1½pts according to Schell) 2-3-6D-7D has many more cuts for improvement and also will peg better. So I'll throw the somewhat risky suited 6-7. |
Joined: February 2008 (5703 votes) Monday 4:57 PM
At 68-68* playing an Optimal strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
_________________Net Optimal____Hand__Pegs____Crib___Total___W4 %____W5 % 2-3-6D-7D__9.59+(-0.57)+(-5.61)=3.41____53.5____55.8 2-6D-7-7___8.65+(-1.70)+(-4.10)=2.85____43.6____54.9 Optimal_______L4 %____L5 % 2-3-6D-7D_____42.1____26.6 2-6D-7-7______35.4____28.1 The flush is better for expected averages by 0.56pt and is considerably better for Win %s. Although it is worse for Loss %s because of the risk of the 6H-7H I'll still select this discard. After the 10 cut I'll lead the 2 and play Safe: Defense______Dealer's Pegging Pts. 2___________________(-1.94) 3___________________(-2.00) 6___________________(-2.42) 7___________________(-2.51) |