January 8, 2019

*** This hand was suggested by Jazzselke
46*-46  ?
47%
37%
11%
2%
1%
0%
Total votes: 185
dec
6358 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:10 AM
I know overall hands potential this is the throw. Two points to make. Depending on the lead card might play on might play off. After the cut I tend to think playing on to some points might be the best play here. Yes DS you know I am always wary of pegging and position. dec
james500 says: Hi dec. With regards playing on/off dependent on the lead, say Pone leads an X, do you play a 5 or your 6?
Guest says: 5. dec
james500
3924 votes

Joined: June 2013

Tuesday 4:22 AM
JQT often championed discarding 2-3 whenever the chance arose. If such a maxim is good enough for him, then it's certainly good enough for me.
glmccuskey
4102 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:41 AM
Had to find a way to get either 2-3 or 5-5 into the crib. I like this better for the pegging value. Offense to the lead.
zeke76
1397 votes

Joined: August 2018

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:17 AM
2-3 has the better average.
Gougie00
5731 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:41 AM
Where's the 4 I was hoping for? Since I didnt get the cut, its obnoxious offense.

Mother Nature decided to clean up my yard by dropping 2 inches of snow. Annoyance snow. It could have been a lot worse.
Jazzselke
2587 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:45 AM
Thought there might be some support for the triple nickels. Don't think the opponent will get to Hole 70, so would play offense. Off to the airport in a few hours...
Ras2829 says: Hi jazzselke: Barcelona bound! Enjoy your tip to Spain for sure. Let us know if you find some cribbage players there.
Jazzselke says: Will do!
Guest says: Adios amigo. Via con dios.
JRCeagle78
1054 votes

Joined: June 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:49 AM
We could end at or near hole 62 at the next deal with some decent pegging. Play offense.

Where is the 4 of clubs when you need it ???
IndianaJared
30 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:54 AM
The only discard better than 2-3 is 5-5 but I think I like having a response to a 10 and then a response to their pairing my 5 OR making the count 35.
IndianaJared says: TYPO - making the count 25.
Guest says: Hey Indy, was from Howe Indiana many years ago
IndianaJared says: I live as far south in Indiana as possible. Not much Cribbage in these parts I have found...
IndianaJared
30 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:04 AM
The only discard better than 2-3 is 5-5 but I think I like having a response to a 10 and then a response to their pairing my 5 OR making the count 35.
IndianaJared says: TYPO *25 NOT 35.
wasa
3018 votes

Joined: November 2014

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:17 AM
I'll be the first to admit tossing the 6-9. Nothing else guarantees me 9 points in hand+crib. Cut gives me a minimum of 10 points. Did check online and see the 2-3 is best for expected averages, but sometimes a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush, or guaranteed 9 is better than a guaranteed 6.
Ras2829
5155 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 9:17 AM
Keep the open-ended double run prospect with the 2-3 to crib. It's off., off., off. for me and play on the lead. Will take all the pegs offered. Of course when holding this way, it is especially nice to turn that 4 spot. The 6 cut is helpful to the hand though one of the poorest cuts to make with the 2-3 discard, often results in 2-4 points in the box.
Gougie00 says: It's off., off., off. = "obnoxious offense"?
Ras2829 says: Hi Gougie00: Right on! Full steam ahead!
Ras2829 says: For those who might not be familiar with the 2-3 discard profile to own crib, this is what it looks like. That 2-3 averages 7.135 (2,662) 2/91, scores two points 5.522%, tallies 3-7 43.164%, reaches 8-11 point 38.129%, and hits 12 or more 13.185%. In this case since the 2-3 was suited , add another .04 to the average. Those are great numbers. Only the 5-5 scores more cribs of 8 or more points.
Andy (muesli64)
2223 votes

Joined: August 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 10:02 AM
2-3. With the flow.
Coeurdelion
5595 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:03 PM
There are three likely keeps - 5-5-6-9 (2-3), 2-3-5-5 (6-9) and 2-3-6-9 (5-5):

5-5-6-9: 4pts + 6¾pts (Schell: 7.00) = 10¾pts

2-3-5-5: 4pts + 5¼pts (Schell: 5.13) = 9¼pts

2-3-6-9: 2pts + 8¾pts (Schell: 8.79) = 10¾pts

Potential;

5-5-6-9: Improves with AAAA, 4444, 55, 666, 7777, 999 + 16xXs = 36 cuts = 36/46 = 78.3% up to 8/10/14pts with all cuts.

2-3-5-5: Improves with AAAA, 222, 333, 4444, 55, 7777, 8888 + 16xXs = 40 cuts = 40/46 = 87.0% up to 7/8/10/12/14pts with all cuts.

2-3-6-9: Improves with AAAA, 222, 333, 4444, 666, 7777, 999 + 16xXs = 40 cuts = 40/46 = 87.0% up to 6/7/8/9pts with AAAA, 333, 4444, 666, 999 = 17 cuts.

Pegging:

I think all these hands will peg well.

Position:

We're 2pts past positional hole and Pone is very short of where they need to be (60pts) so I'll play Offense to increase my lead.

Summary:

Both 5-5-6-9 and 2-3-6-9 start with 10¾pts but 5-5-6-9 has nearly as many cuts for improvement and all of them score 8-14pts. So I'll throw the 2-3.
HalscribCLX
5318 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:50 PM
At 46*-46 playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_______________Our
Offense___Hand_Pegs_Crib_Total____W5 %____W6 %
5-5-6-9___7.91+3.61+6.90=18.42____26.1____55.7
2-3-5-5___8.70+3.43+4.92=17.05____22.1____50.9
2-3-6-9___4.96+3.22+8.76=16.94____22.4____51.1

Offense_______L5 %____L6 %
5-5-6-9_______10.2____18.9
2-3-5-5_______11.1____22.7
2-3-6-9_______10.8____22.4

5-5-6-9 is best for expected averages by 1.37pts and is significantly best for Win %s and Loss %s which both take account of the board position. So i'll select the 2-3 to discard.

After the 6 cut I'll play Defense to the lead.