November 7, 2018

*** This hand was suggested by DoctorWitty
77-72*  ?
42%
24%
16%
5%
3%
2%
2%
1%
0%
0%
Total votes: 158
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008
 
 
 
Wednesday 3:07 AM
Toss 2-8 is probably not much safer, so let's retain our maximum potential.
dec
6352 votes

Joined: April 2008
 
 
 
Wednesday 3:30 AM
Hit or miss A-2. Eight lead. dec
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016
 
 
 
Wednesday 3:47 AM
Tossing A-2 leaves a little stronger hand to work with at this position.

This hand has more cuts for improvement than tossing A-3.
wasa says: I know this is your 2nd account but still, congratulations on 1000 cribbage votes!
Ras2829 says: Hi Rosemarie44: Those vote totals ending with a triple zero are always impressive. Keep those votes pouring in!
Rosemarie44 says: Hi Ras: Have a great evening. Rest up!
joekayak
1873 votes

Joined: May 2016
 
 
 
Wednesday 3:54 AM
About as good a defensive throw as I can make. Lead the 3. The tables I use show A-2 and A-3 have the same expectation to opponents crib. Rosemarie has it right about this hold having more cuts for improvement.
Guest says: Hi joekayak: Ras has the A-3 valued at 4.96 and A-2 at 5.17 points
Guest says: That's me as Guest. Rosemarie
joekayak says: See Jazzselke below. Apparently it depends on which table one consults. He says DeLynn table has A-2 better than A-3. I can see why. The 3 is what Ras likes to call a "connecting" card.
joekayak says: So, with what seems to be a close call between the two throws, I'll keep the hand improved with every cut except an Ace that is also in pretty good shape for defense.
james500
3917 votes

Joined: June 2013
 
 
 
Wednesday 4:41 AM
A-2 from me too. The cut helps us both.
Gougie00
5724 votes

Joined: March 2008
 
 
 
Wednesday 5:03 AM
Another hedge.
wasa
3013 votes

Joined: November 2014
 
 
 
Wednesday 5:09 AM
For me, easy decision to toss A-2. Didn't ponder anything else.
Rosemarie44 says: Hi wasa: Congratulations to you, also. Sorry I didn't get to you sooner. Mornings are my busiest time of the day.
Ras2829 says: Hi wasa: Zeroes, three in a row, are truly eye-catching. Keep stacking up those votes.
glmccuskey
4095 votes

Joined: April 2011
 
 
 
Wednesday 5:43 AM
Looks like I agree with most.
Jazzselke
2583 votes

Joined: March 2009
 
 
 
Wednesday 6:30 AM
Definite defensive position, don't have a premier toss available. Would rather throw A2 than a combination with an 8. A2 slightly better than A3 according to DeLynn's table.
JRCeagle78
1054 votes

Joined: June 2016
 
 
 
Wednesday 6:47 AM
I briefly thought about tossing A3 to avoid the runners but I ended up voting with the majority. The 4 cut clearly helps even though I will still play a cautious defense and lead the 3.
cribbagepogo
3250 votes

Joined: October 2007
 
 
 
Wednesday 7:25 AM
I do the same a Dan and Gary, why don't I win as much as they do?
dgergens
938 votes

Joined: January 2018
 
 
 
Wednesday 8:12 AM
This is a cock-up on my part. My eye spotted the 5,2 first as making 15 with the 8. I didn't stare long enough to spot 5,3 works with the 7. Had I spotted it, of course I would have kept the 3 over the 2.
horus93
1281 votes

Joined: December 2017
 
 
 
Wednesday 9:23 AM
At most scores toss A-2 is probably best, a strong hand and a fairly safe discard. But with a relative position of +2/-9 on third street I'd tilt more towards defense.

Even if I cut a 9 and get 0 points in the pegging if I can hold dealer behind 86 I'll gain a superior position.

Barring crazy hands on either side we'll probably be playing defense all the way to the end.
horus93 says: Turns out A-2 and A-8 are not very different in averages after all! Liam has them nearly equal, Schell has a difference of only .2
horus93 says: Turns out A-2 and A-8 are not very different in averages after all! Liam has them nearly equal, Schell has a difference of only .2
Andy (muesli64)
2223 votes

Joined: August 2009
 
 
 
Wednesday 11:05 AM
A-2 preferred by quite a way.
Ras2829
5147 votes

Joined: November 2008
 
 
 
Wednesday 5:19 PM
The difference between A-2 A-3 is quite small. It is the proximity of the trey to the remaining 3 cards which should determine the discard here. The cut of the four demonstrates that very well as we now have 9o points with the 3-5-8-7. Had we retained 2-5-7-8, hand score would be four points. In crib, we are often rewarded for making a good decision. So it is this day. I'll play defense to keep opponent down-the board movement at a minimums. Lead the trey and take seemingly safe pegs. Had I been playing offense, would have led the 8.
Ras2829 says: Excuse the typo above of 9o as the score for 3-4-5-7-8. Somebody sent me an E-mail stating that they spent 30 minutes looking for the other 81 points. Don't repeat that effort!