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Total votes: 154 |
Rosemarie44 2051 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Tuesday 3:34 AM
We would want to keep the 6-8-8 together and the jack of clubs for a chance to add 11 points to the hand. Tossing 2-Q is best for a hand that has a slightly higher expected average hand (2-13 points) and combined average (hand minus crib) than tossing the balking 6-Q. |
dec 6327 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Tuesday 4:38 AM
yeah for the good guys.. I think keeping the two for a possible two points to add in the big picture not worth to throw the faces. Lead eight of diamonds dump the Jack in sequence somewhere. dec |
Gougie00 5702 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Tuesday 4:49 AM
I went for the maximum and this time I got it. May as well, I was down by 8. Lead the 8, escape with the 8. |
james500 3895 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Tuesday 4:49 AM
Seriously thought about holding zero points and discarding Q-8, taking my chances that between the cut and some pegging I can move at least two holes. Q-6 should be safe enough though. 8h lead may attract a 5 response, 2h makes 15/2. |
JQT 4136 votes Joined: October 2008 |
    Tuesday 5:42 AM
Trying to put the 'brakes' on Dealer's Crib.
The 7 Card Cut *still* helps us a lot as we will reach fairly deep into the Third Street CPZ. Lead an 8 Card. Inushtuk1 says: Hi John. I hope you’re enjoying the 400th anniversary of Kepler’s Third Law of Planetary Motion. |
Jazzselke 2569 votes Joined: March 2009 |
    Tuesday 6:38 AM
Looking for a 7 regardless, and the best defensive throw. Also some protection against a 5 cut. |
Inushtuk1 1464 votes Joined: July 2016 |
    Tuesday 6:39 AM
I suppose I *should* play defense. I’m - 19. My opponent is plus 5. But s/he’s already dealing 2 Holes beyond the CPZ. So I’ll try a little offense. But not crazy 2-6-8-8 offense, tossing the toucher face cards which are suited to boot. Not worth an extra 0.11 points in my average hand.
Lead the 8d. And I’ll take the (21-3) if offered. |
horus93 1272 votes Joined: December 2017 |
    Tuesday 6:51 AM
I went for a defensive toss that still preserved some chance for a good hand. My hopenosis paid off today!
With 12 known points we will be around 79. I doubt I can peg the 17 points needed to get into superior position by playing on. Say I pegged four and got to 83, it won't do me much good if I gave up three in the process and dealer is now at 89 or something. I'd play defense and try to keep dealer behind his next "par area" around 86. I'd lead an 8 and play the J on a 7 response. |
JRCeagle78 1054 votes Joined: June 2016 |
    Tuesday 7:14 AM
I briefly contemplated tossing J-Q, but was quickly awoken by my alarm clock. Tossing suited J-Q to my opponents crib is a BAD IDEA. I'll admit that having the 2 as an escape card was appealing, but the Jack can serve the same purpose with a lot less risk.
The 7 cut is a welcome sight and allows me to use a cautious offense. I'll lead the 8 and see where it goes from there. Guest says: Just wanted to say I really appreciate this site. It helps my understanding of cribbage. I vote frequently, but don't / won't comment as I don't have the necessary knowledge. Guest says: Just wanted to say I really appreciate this site. It helps my understanding of cribbage. I vote frequently, but don't / won't comment as I don't have the necessary knowledge. horus93 says: that's never stopped me lol horus93 says: that's never stopped me lol horus93 says: that's never stopped me lol horus93 says: that's never stopped me lol Inushtuk1 says: Lol. Me neither.
Inushtuk1 says: Lol. Me neither.
JRCeagle78 says: I have been playing this game for over 40 years and I still don't have the "necessary knowledge".
For every 6 cards a player is dealt, there are 15 combinations of discards. Each one is determined by your position on the board, whether your dealer or pone, defense or offensive play, or your style of play. Although may times there is a set discard on a particular hand, nothing is etched in plastic-coated cardboard. JRCeagle78 says: I have been playing this game for over 40 years and I still don't have the "necessary knowledge".
For every 6 cards a player is dealt, there are 15 combinations of discards. Each one is determined by your position on the board, whether your dealer or pone, defense or offensive play, or your style of play. Although may times there is a set discard on a particular hand, nothing is etched in plastic-coated cardboard. Ras2829 says: Hi JRCeagle78: Right on! That is the major element in the wonder of this game. Gaining knowledge is a lifetime pursuit and no life is long enough to close the book. Each small window of learning is but a small aperture to an entire volume. Keep on peggin' and RAS I still learning after 76 years of play. Some folks would contend that is a sign that I am a very slow learner. Ras2829 says: Hi JRCeagle78: Right on! That is the major element in the wonder of this game. Gaining knowledge is a lifetime pursuit and no life is long enough to close the book. Each small window of learning is but a small aperture to an entire volume. Keep on peggin' and RAS I still learning after 76 years of play. Some folks would contend that is a sign that I am a very slow learner. Ras2829 says: Sorry didn't mean to get two I's in one sentence. The "I" following RAS should be "is". Ras2829 says: Sorry didn't mean to get two I's in one sentence. The "I" following RAS should be "is". |
Ras2829 5125 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Tuesday 10:41 AM
Can't bring myself to play defense with opponent dealing from hole 75. So it's an optimal pegging strategy, lead the 8 and take those pegs reasonably safe. As Inushtuk1 says would take the run of three even though it would make the count 21 if dealer plays a 7 on my opener. If playing defense from the gate, go with the low scoring 6-Q. |
glmccuskey 4075 votes Joined: April 2011 |
    Tuesday 2:04 PM
Defense for me. Lead the eight of diamonds. |
Coeurdelion 5573 votes Joined: October 2007 |
    Tuesday 2:47 PM
I think its between 2-Q and 6-Q:
6-8-8-J: 2pts - 4½pts (Schell: 4.56) = -2½pts 2-8-8-J: 2pts - 4¼pts (Schell: 4.22) = -2¼pts Potential: 6-8-8-J: Improves with AAAA, 5555, 666, 7777, 88, 9999, JJJ = 24 cuts = 24/46 = 52.2% up to 6/12pts with AAAA, 7777, 88 = 10 cuts. Plus 11 clubs for 1pt extra for his nob = 11/46 = 0.24pt. 2-8-8-J: Improves with 222, 3333, 5555, 7777, 88, JJJ = 20 cuts = 20/46 = 43.5% up to 6/8pts with 5555, 88 = 6 cuts. Plus 11 clubs for 1pt extra for his nob = 11/46 = 0.24pt. Pegging: 2-8-8-J should peg slightly better. Position: Dealer is already 5pts past the 70pt positional hole and we won't reach 96pts for next deal so I think its best we play Defense. Summary: 6-8-8-J has more cuts for improvement and for an average/good hand and a better maximum. I think this will make up for the ¼pt lower starting value and the slightly better pegging. So I'll throw 2-Q. |
HalscribCLX 5296 votes Joined: February 2008 |
    Tuesday 3:07 PM
At 67-75* playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:
_______________Our Offense___Hand_Pegs__Crib___Total__W3 %___W4 % 6-8-8-J___4.24+1.41+(-4.63)=1.02___0.5____5.8 2-8-8-J___3.72+1.00+(-4.14)=0.58___0.5____5.5 Defense_______L3 %___L4 % 6-8-8-J_______23.3___66.0 2-8-8-J_______23.7___66.6 6-8-8-J is 0.44pt better for expected averages and it is also slightly better for Win %s and Loss %s so I'll select 2-Q to discard. After the 7 cut I'll lead the 8D and play Offense: Lead_______Our Pegging Pts. 8_______________1.37 J_______________1.16 6_______________1.01 |