February 9, 2018

*** This hand was suggested by jqt
109-104*  ?
37%
24%
24%
9%
1%
1%
0%
0%
Total votes: 153
Rosemarie44
2051 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Friday 4:05 AM
So many choices but holding 7 points to start . Tossing 3-J.
dec
6327 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Friday 4:08 AM
I am holding seven also. Wanted to keep The Jack for that extra point possibility. Leading the Jack here, offense. dec
Ras2829 says: Hi dec: You've said it very well with just a few words.
Andy (muesli64)
2221 votes

Joined: August 2009

 
 
 
Friday 4:33 AM
Throw J-3 just.
Gougie00
5702 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Friday 5:21 AM
I need 12 to go out. The 4-run gives me the best chance. Since the cut doesnt put me out, lead the 4 and muster points.
bbaer1
3664 votes

Joined: February 2011

 
 
 
Friday 5:34 AM
Held the nine as opposed to the Jack as a two cut will help this keep.
bbaer1 says: Also, it's been many a time I hold 456X and seem to get stuck with 5-6 left in my hand which gives opponent a 31 for two.
glmccuskey
4075 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Friday 5:50 AM
I’ll lead the jack and try to peg three holes. If not, my opponent isn’t necessarily going out. I could live to peg another day.
james500
3895 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Friday 6:26 AM
I'm drawn to the trio of 4-5-6-? hands, rather than the flush.

With the 3, I start with six points and every cut will increase this further (46/46).

With the 9, I start with seven points and every cut except an 8 will increase this further (42/46).

With the Jack, I also start with seven points. Every cut bar a 2 or 8 will increase this further (38/46), however I score a "bonus" point if the cut is a diamond (9/46), which I reckon more than makes up for the fewer number of "traditionally" helpful cuts.

9-3 to my opponent is only one card away from improving from 0 to 4 points. Other such discards include A-7 (which I voted to discard yesterday), 4-7 and 6-3. I wonder how dangerous these tend to be on average, with their "boom or bust" nature? I'd certainly try to avoid discarding 4-5, 4-6, 5-6, 6-7, 6-8 or 8-9 which are all just one card away from leaping to five points. Am I being too cavalier choosing those that may become four without fear?
Jazzselke says: I have also pondered the throws of A7, 36,39 and 47 as well. All can turn into 24! Normally I view them as not extremely dangerous throws, as they all appear in about the middle of the discarding charts. As usual position and your opponent are significant considerations. A7 deserves special attention because of the tendency of middle-aged throws. I would also be interested in other opinions?
james500 says: In retrospect, I'd have no qualms about discarding 10-K, 10-Q or Q-K all of which can realise four points with just one more card, so maybe I shouldn't be so concerned about my willingness to discard A-7, 4-7, 9-3, 6-3 so readily.
Jazzselke says: Middle-aged throws, what?? Middle-card throws....
Guest says: hahaha...you are past middle age now, and I'm not far behind you. With age, comes wisdom , so they say. S :)(and I held it this way, too)
Jazzselke
2569 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Friday 6:55 AM
Intriguing puzzle from our esteemed Canadian. 3456 improves on any cut but a number of them only takes the total to 8 points. 456J can peg well by leading the Jack as suggested by Gary. A savvy opponent will try to stay away, but if they play a 6 on the Jack lead we get an immediate 2 points.
Guest says: Since we're both snowed in, let's talk more about leading from hands like this. I always lead the 6 in case they held faces so I can get 31. If you lead a face, then you take the chance of pairing it and they may have a third 5, or you give them the 4 or 6 to get a run, so I am perplexed. Enlighten me, oh wise one! S:)
Jazzselke says: If I don't need the points yes I agree on the six lead. In this particular case we need 3 to go out so I don't care if they get a 6-peg or a run as long as I get my 3. If they are 6 points out or less it becomes trickier.
Guest says: I forgot to go back and look at the score, but I meant in general. Emilio goes for the win with 6 points or less needed as dealer at end game, and Steinmetz says 8. Of course, I don't think at their level, but 8 seems risky. What do you use as a guideline?
glmccuskey says: At nine points out, non dealer is 50/50 to go out.
Jazzselke says: Are you asking when should the dealer try to peg out or play defense? I get different answers also, but it seemsyou should try to peg out if non-dealer needs 7 or 8(???).
Guest says: yes and yes. So will you try it at 9, glm?
Guest says: yes and yes. So will you try it at 9, glm?
Guest says: now I am Tammy 2 times
Guest says: It's Tommy, Tammy is the niece
Jazzselke says: At 9 I would play defense
Guest says: well, I don't look like a Tommy! lol I think I would at 9 as well. I was surprised when Wayne said 8. Seems 6 is hard enough. S :)
wasa
2991 votes

Joined: November 2014

 
 
 
Friday 8:09 AM
I need to go out. Kept the 3456 as I think it has the most cuts to get me out (333444555666 or 12/46 to win without pegging). Hope I did the math right this time.
dgergens
938 votes

Joined: January 2018

 
 
 
Friday 8:54 AM
I had this hand last night, though w/o the flush option. Anyway, this is what seems right to me. I'd rather battle with the 9 in my hand, but kept the J for potential extra point.
JRCeagle78
1054 votes

Joined: June 2016

 
 
 
Friday 9:09 AM
Every card in the deck with the exception of the non-diamond 8's will help this hand. Let's see how this plays out. I can use the Jack as an escape card if necessary. lead the 3.
Inushtuk1
1464 votes

Joined: July 2016

 
 
 
Friday 1:12 PM
I’m with JR. Lead the 3.
Ras2829
5125 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Friday 2:23 PM
Will retain the 7 points with the Jack needing 12 points for win on this deal. Most other places on board would have retained 4-5-6-9. Might get an extra point for that Jack which could be important. Might even get another shot at the win if don't get out as dealer needs 17 to win on this deal. Knowing that I have 9 points after the cut will lead the Jack and take pegs as offered.
Ras2829 says: For those concerned with ending up with a 5-6 from which to lead which is often the case with this hand, lead the X-pointer which encourages an Ace in response. Try it this way and you'll be surprised how often n/d will score 15 with the play of the four spot and 31-2 with the play of the 6. Otherwise this is a very difficult hand to play.
jethrotulll
298 votes

Joined: May 2016

 
 
 
Friday 5:40 PM
I lead the 3 here. An excellent player will play a 6 here or even an 8. But what do I know....