Friday 3:08 AM

very obvious keep was there another choice? ok odds on 5 lead would br the spade. hey g do i get half the pot here? slow play the hand. dec

   

Friday 3:09 AM

308 was me dec

   

Friday 3:11 AM

ok no brainer but I am going to lead the 5 hearts cause I like red hearts better than black spades. now I get to play the game through see u on ecribbage.

Friday 4:25 AM

The 30 hand. See you thought 29 was the highest hand.

   

Friday 4:34 AM

29 is the highest hand. maybe you could get a trap for 5 on the pegging. dec

   

Friday 5:06 AM

Lets erase that 20 point deficit.

   

Friday 5:10 AM

always nice to be holding a 20 hand,before the cut

Friday 5:14 AM

Count the points, 2 for the jack and 28 in the hand, 30 hand.

Friday 5:50 AM

i did would peg two for the J and await my opponents lead card that is the play of the game.
but i get the reference now we await the 16 crib?

Friday 6:12 AM

Is there a more perfect cut? An outrageous 6 cards dealt to us; an 11-1 cut that's really the only gutshot card that's going to help our crib. Are you sure we're not better off with random (more realistic) scenarios?

   

Friday 6:20 AM

only in a perfect world would I really get a hand like that..like hitting jackpot on a slot machine

Friday 6:43 AM

Not so fast Bobbo. Got this hand in a tournament on April 18 in Niagara Falls but Pone cut a Queen. Opponent held this hand on Feb 9 in Reno and Pone cut a King.

   

Friday 6:44 AM

Oops, 6:43 as me.

Friday 6:48 AM

hi hal what odds are better the four 5s or the jackpot? dec

   

Friday 7:24 AM

Never, never, NEVER will I give up the chance for a 28 or 29 cut. Interesting challenge...can anyone come up with a scenario where you would hold 3 fives and a face, and toss one or two of them to the crib?

But I digress. Bobbo, I also got this hand in tournament play a few years ago at Reno. I needed around 27 points to win with first count (pone needed I think around 8 pts). I held the four 5s and cut the face card. Oooh, was my opponent pissed!

In another digression, I taught my nephew to play cribbage last weekend. So what happens? Playing with his dad last night, he got a 28 hand. After less than a week of playing cribbage. Unreal.

   

Friday 8:12 AM

Cool for sure! K

Friday 8:23 AM

Dec: Need to know what the odds of "Jackpot" are, then can answer your question. Hal

   

Friday 8:28 AM

Uh sorry guys I was just messing around trying the "Suggest a Hand" feature out, I didn't know it would become today's hand. Wasn't really paying attention to which cards I was selecting for it.

Friday 8:38 AM

wish they were all this easy

Friday 8:41 AM

I tried to submit a hand, but it asked for the opponent's hand too, which I felt was pointless in this type of analysis. Coincidentially, my idea was 5-5-5-5-J-J, with us 21 points from game and dealer (opponent) 3 points from winning.

Friday 8:52 AM

how about the odds of just getting four 5s dealt i think those odds would be better than some sort of lottery or slot machine ,was being too general ty hal

Friday 9:04 AM

Odds of 4 of a kind in hand are about 1 in 9024. Odds of any X (a ten-valued card) as starter for our hand is 14/46. So odds for this 28-hand is about 1 in 29650. Waiting for your Jackpot odds, Dec. 8-) Hal

Friday 10:02 AM

hopefully the new suggestion thing will keep the cards in some kind of order 5,5,5,5,q,k would be nice for my obsessive compulsiveness

Friday 11:07 AM

Should be called "Daily Dreamworld Cribbage Hand". Yeah, and in our "Dreamworld" pone also threw K Q.DMS

Friday 11:08 AM

I'm suprised the 5th 5 wasn't cut.DMS

Friday 11:11 AM

Do they come dealt that way? In order. Not often, but if the do it is a sign, take them.

Friday 11:44 AM

I've had 4 5's dealt to me 3 times. Once a 2 was cut, once an 8 and once a 4. A friend of mine would call it a "Jim Hatch" cut. :-)DMS

   

Friday 11:49 AM

Yes have held this hand 5-6 times over the 65+ years have played the game. Never got a 30 hand with the Jack cut though did hit a rare 28 this way. Have you noticed that nearly all 28 hands require finding that elusive fourth five in the deck? When nolding 5-5-5-5, seems like folks are real good at finding 2, 8, or 9 as a starter card. In recent years have played 100 games weekly electronicaly or with real people. Getting four cards alike in six cards is one in 670 deals. Computing 9.3 deals per game as average, you could expect four of something once in each 72 games played based on my empirical data recorded for the last 13 years. During that peirod 616 fours of a kind have appeared in 413,014 deals. Since there are 13 possible quads, does that make a given set such as 5-5-5-5 12 or 13 times as infrequent? By the way for those who want to give up an average of seven+ combined points and put one of those fives to the crib, the 5 & K of spades is the best choice. 5-K average to own crib is 6.726 (1,742) and 5-Q average is 6.593 (1,251)and you should match the suit to gain an additional .04 of one point in crib value. If you would like to know more on how to record empirical data in actual play, E-mail RAS@localaccess.com.

Friday 4:09 PM

Lead the five.

   

Friday 11:00 PM

A guy in our club got a 28 hand in tournament play and the very next hand, in a defensive situation, held four 5's and discarded 2 of them. A face card was cut. He nearly had back to back 28 hands.

The guy I was playing made a remark about the cards not being shuffled well, but obviously then their would be no chance of getting all four 5's again.

Counting electronic opponents, I have held four 5's twice with no face card cuts. My only 28 hand came while holding Q-5-5-5 and having the fourth 5 cut. I've never even seen a 29 hand in play, least of all had one myself.

   

Friday 11:31 PM

At eCribbage we keep track of 28s and 29s, and in about 8 months of play we have only two 29 hands and about ten 28 hands. I have never gotten a 28 or 29 yet..

   

Saturday 5:05 AM

As per my earlier post, the odds of getting a specific 4 of a kind is about 1 in 9024 ( [4C4 x 48C2] / 52C4 )and the odds of getting any 4 of a kind is 1 in 694 or 13 times more frequent. mCn is combinatorics short-hand for the distinct ways that you can select "n objects" from "m objects" where n

   

Saturday 5:06 AM

where n

   

Saturday 5:08 AM

where n less than or equal to m. (The keyboard character for "less than" seems to end the post.

   

Saturday 6:01 AM

I leave it as an exercise for the readers to compute the odds of a 29 hand: [4C3 x 1C1 x 47C2] / 52C4 = odds of getting three 5's and J of same suit as fourth 5: 1/46 = odds of cutting the fourth 5.

   

Saturday 6:04 AM

Oops, the divisor is 52C6 (20358520), not 52C4.

   

Saturday 6:13 PM

To the guest at 409. Hard to lead a five when not your lead ;)

As for todays hand, I can't see a reason why you woudln't keep the count, unless defense was key where you needed out card or two. Not here, we need to hopefully parlay this hand back in the game. Think opponent tossed a couple face cards to keep a double run? *crossing fingers*