November 21, 2020

*** This hand was suggested by usacoder
60*-60  ?
59%
14%
9%
9%
3%
1%
0%
0%
0%
0%
Total votes: 206
mrob2199
1433 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Saturday 3:11 AM
Yikes what an ugly hand USA!!! From this position I will play for the miracle 3 cut-with the A,2, or ,4 helping as well-keeling the AA26 might technically provide me with more cuts that help,but the max would be 8 points-which doesn’t do much for us here-if we get the miraculous 3 cut and peg a few with our aces we could get pretty close to 80,which would enable to have a chance at getting into position if we caught a good hand
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Saturday 3:19 AM
Best for expected averages tossing 2-6. This hand with two magic elevens, has more cuts 14 cuts at 5, 6, or 10 points); than holding A-A-2-6 (36 cuts keep this hand at 2 or 4 points)
Rosemarie44 says: With a nice cut of a "4" we have 10 points. Not too shabby.
Ras2829 says: Hi Rosemarie44: Like your thinking soealry in the day and so did HalscribCLX. That's a pretty strong ally!
Rosemarie44 says: Hi Ras2829: Thank you, Early night Sat. missed your comments. Awesome video!.
james500
3921 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Saturday 3:25 AM
I'm not likely to get a Jack or 5 from my opponent, so 10-Q doesn't interest me.

The cut probably won't be a 3, so no "hopenosis", in keeping AA2 together. 6-X doesn't excite me either.

AATQ still benefits from a 3 cut, (in hand and box since I discarded a 2), as well as many other cuts.
2-6 could yield points with an X-Middle discard from Pone, or alternatively a W-I-D-E high-low type.
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 3:40 AM
The only way to eke out a reasonable Crib today is by sending either Toss (A A) or Toss (2 6) into the Crib, yet either of these ideas will separate our Aces from the Deuce.

Thus, an arrangement such as this will have a wide range of ways in which different players can approach it. And while the computer program may certainly show how one discard may vary a few tenths of a point from another here, I think what's most important is to proceed with a plan.

As far as Cribs go, Toss (T Q) even 'chimes in' today better than say Toss (6 T), so I'm leaning toward simply Keep (A A 2 6), as this should at least peg well, and yet it hurts to place those "bricks" into my Own Crib.

This is perhaps one of those non-consequential-looking hands that can indicate more about the individual preferences about what sort of player you are, more than it will reveal what is specifically right or wrong. Just try to have some reasoning behind your decision, and a plan to go along with it as well.

After the 4 Card Cut, those who decided upon Keep (A A T Q) and Toss (2 6) will be happy, as will maybe later also those who chose Toss (A A); we shall never know, since we don't get to see what Pone discarded: It could have been Toss (2 5) for all we know!
dec
6356 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 4:15 AM
A 2 3 4 or 5 6 7 8 which cut might give you a dozen in the main hand ? I measure to 95-96 looks like I am playing for the next two hands to reach position first. Offense on keep , defense on the pegging now. dec
mfetchCT425
1397 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Saturday 4:32 AM
I like keeping the A-A-2 intact for pegging purposes. Went back and forth between 6-10 and 10-Q. Decided to keep the 6 with the hand for a few more cuts that would help us (essentially middle card cuts now come into play with this hold). Maybe dealer has to toss a stray J to our crib to fill in the gap toss of 10-Q.
RubyTuesday
912 votes

Joined: January 2019

 
 
 
Saturday 5:02 AM
What a horrid hand. I tossed 6 10 to my crib as a least bad option rather than best.
usacoder
968 votes

Joined: August 2019

 
 
 
Saturday 5:21 AM
Personally, I would put the 6 and either tenner into the crib.

According to my algorithms, the 6 has to go to the crib. For the second card, the average point difference is almost moot. Adding the deuce to the crib has the highest average at 11.53.
Mark6
702 votes

Joined: June 2020

 
 
 
Saturday 5:30 AM
Played for the 4 Cut instead of the 3 Cut this time and got it . Lucky guess
Gougie00
5728 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 6:15 AM
Yuck. I'll toss the 2-6 in the crib and hope for help.
Ras2829
5152 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 6:17 AM
Very little difference in potential hand score whether making this choice or discarding 10-Q. The 10-Q 3.166 (837) is a full point less in own crib, is nearly as low-scoring as 10-K, and tallies 0-2 points 45.069% of the time. Although 2-6 to own crib is not a shining star it does average 4.154 ((628).That in itself is enough to give A-A-110-Q the edge. Have nothing to defend here short of CPZ (69-73),am choosing an offense strategy coming out of the box, again when looking at these six, after seeing the starter card, and will play on the lead. Yes, would pair an Ace, 10 or Q lead, and play the 10 spot if a five is led. Would play the 10 on a King lead. On other leads will advance the count with the 10/Q attempting to keep A-A intact. Admittedly A-A-2-6n has higher offensive pegging potential though not enough to offset that full point edge in the crib.
Eolus619 says: Ras...your comments about replies to the lead are very insightful and helpful ..at least to me ..as i learn to peg ..so far the best thing that has happened to me is I am limited to only four reply choices ! decisions decisions
Jazzselke
2585 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Saturday 7:52 AM
Can't be too many worse hands than this one. 6X a very poor choice to crib, 10Q not much better. 26 the best, but separates the deuce from the 2 aces. So by process of elimination 10Q is my very shaky option.
Andy (muesli64)
2223 votes

Joined: August 2009

 
 
 
Saturday 7:54 AM
Threw 2-6 in hope something might happen in crib...
SallyAnn3
908 votes

Joined: March 2020

 
 
 
Saturday 10:12 AM
More cuts to help the hand...maybe catch a 10 in the crib
cwed
1355 votes

Joined: October 2014

 
 
 
Saturday 2:11 PM
What a terrible hand. Let's hope the pone has an equally bad hand. I'm already in position to receive the next deal, so I won't get aggressive on pegging unless the pone leads an Ace.
Ras2829 says: Hi cwed: Are you planning on dealing two hands in succession? Or am I the one that is confused?
cwed says: Ras: I'm the dealer here, and I said I am already in position to receive the next deal--that is, be the next pone.
Coeurdelion
5593 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Saturday 3:46 PM
I'd like to keep A-A-2 together for the double-run and for pegging. 6-10-and 6-Q are poor discards to our crib so that leaves 10-Q. So I'll keep A-A-2-6.
HalscribCLX
5316 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Saturday 4:08 PM
At 60*-60 playing a Defense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

________________Pone
Defense___Hand__Pegs___Crib_Total___W5 %____W6 %
A-A-10-Q___4.09+(-2.15)+4.00=5.94____50.0____42.7
A-A-2-6____4.26+(-2.22)+3.30=5.34____49.2____37.2
A-A-2-Q____4.17+(-2.26)+3.16=5.07____48.6____42.5
A-A-6-Q____3.83+(-2.28)+3.48=5.03____48.3____44.4
A-A-2-10___4.17+(-2.30)+3.13=5.00____48.4____42.2
A-A-6-10___3.83+(-2.33)+3.45=4.95____47.9____43.9
2-6-10-Q___1.83+(-2.15)+5.20=4.88____45.0____43.3

Defense______L5 %____L6 %
A-A-10-Q______53.0____39.8
A-A-2-6_______59.2____46.3
A-A-2-Q_______52.0____40.3
A-A-6-Q_______50.1____38.3
A-A-2-10______52.3____40.7
A-A-6-10______47.9____43.9
2-6-10-Q______45.0____43.3

A-A-10-Q is best for expected averages by 0.60pt it is also one of the best for Win %s and one of the lowest for Loss %s. So I'll select 2-6 to discard.

After the 4 cut I'll play Optimally to the lead (cautious offense).