April 1, 2020

*** This hand was suggested by Ras2829
10*-14  ?
68%
28%
1%
1%
1%
0%
Total votes: 200
RubyTuesday
912 votes

Joined: January 2019

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:11 AM
A 4 to my crib, I have to admit that I was hoping fir a more useful turn up.
RubyTuesday says: For not fir.
RubyTuesday
912 votes

Joined: January 2019

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:11 AM
mrob2199
1433 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:29 AM
We have 4 points either way we keep this hand-2 in the hand and 2 in the crib-decided to keep the 889 together in case we received a great cut
kelliher says: Guess I'm almost alone in discarding high/ low.
dec
6356 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 3:33 AM
Ten or a seven awaiting. Did not happen so hope to trap some pegs. dec
horus93
1281 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Wednesday 4:00 AM
I think this will peg better against a broader array of hands and per Liam it turns out to have the same average for pure hand+crib.

My choice is also definitely influenced by an unscientific bias against a-4 which seems to always give me 2-4 point cribs...
horus93 says: And for the pegging at -8/+6 with a lame cut I would peg with some amount of caution. I wouldn't pair a lead, anyway.
horus93 says: Analogous positions would be 36*-40, 62*-66, 88*-92
Jazzselke
2585 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Wednesday 4:08 AM
Prefer A4 over a pair of 8s when we can hold a possible double run. Hopefully the fortune of the game changes soon.
Jazzselke says: 30% of the time 88s are 2 points
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 4:33 AM
The 7 Card or T Card Cut still helps us, and meanwhile we may peg without getting all jammed up and maybe more than once.
james500
3921 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Wednesday 4:45 AM
I'll discard the hearts.
Only the cut of a non-spade 9 won't immediately improve the value of my hand. It would create a pair in the crib though.
Hand features an X-A eleven for pegging.
Gougie00
5728 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 5:31 AM
I kept the 889 together just incase a 7 was cut. My magic wand wasnt working, and a 3 appeared.

Next time will be the 4456 hand.

Day 18 of isolation.
thelawnet
262 votes

Joined: January 2020

 
 
 
Wednesday 5:35 AM
A4 and 88 are close but I prefer to keep the A4 for pegging
mfetchCT425
1397 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Wednesday 5:52 AM
Like the touching cards in hand for shot at 12 or 10/11 with a favorable cut. Suited A-4 is in the same ball park as 8-8 to our own crib. Ras’s rankings has them pretty close. I think pone is more likely to toss faces vs. middle cards so the “5” in my crib my hit something.
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Wednesday 6:23 AM
Prefer A-4 rather than 8-8 in our crib. Close in value. Wanted to keep 8-8-9 together, too.
dgergens
938 votes

Joined: January 2018

 
 
 
Wednesday 11:21 AM
I considered the pegging advantages of the lower cards, but just decided to hope for the double run and hope pone puts something in that works with A,4 instead of 8,8. This could go either way based on the cut and pone's discard.
Coeurdelion
5593 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Wednesday 1:43 PM
I think it's between A-4-9-J (8-8) and 8-8-9-J (A-4):

A-4-9-J: 2pts + 5¾pts (Schell: 5.45) = 7¾pts

8-8-9-J: 2pts + 5¼pts (Schell: 5.43) = 7¼pts

Potential:

A-4-9-J: Improves with AAA, 2222, 444, 5555, 6666, 999 + 15xXs = 36 cuts = 36/46 = 78.3% up to 6/7pts with AAA, 444, 5555, 10101010, JJJ = 17 cuts. Plus 11 spades for 1pt extra for his nob = 11/46 = 0.24pt.

8-8-9-J: Improves with 5555, 6666, 7777, 88, 999, 10101010, JJJ = 24 cuts = 24/46 = 52.2% up to 6/10/12pts with 7777, 88, 10101010 = 10 cuts. Plus 11 spades for 1pt extra for his nob = 11/46 = 0.24pt.

Position:

It looks like it's 2nd deal and as we were First Pone and scored the average I'll continue to play Offense.

Pegging:

I think A-4-9-J will peg slightly better.

Summary:

A-4-9-J has a starting value ½pt more than 8-8-9-J and has more cuts for improvement and 17 cuts for 6/7pts. 8-8-9-J has a higher maximum at 12pts but even so I'll select 8-8 as it pegs better and has more potential.
HalscribCLX
5316 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 1:45 PM
At 10*-14 playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

______________Our
Offense__Hand_Pegs_Crib_Total____W8 %____W9 %
A-4-9-J___4.76+2.85+5.34=12.95____17.6____19.1
8-8-9-J___4.59+2.80+5.44=12.83____17.3____19.2

Offense______L8 %____L9 %
A-4-9-J_______34.6____53.9
8-8-9-J_______35.0____54.3

A-4-9-J is better for expected averages by 0.12pt and is about equal for Win %s and very slightly lower for Loss %s. So I'll select 8-8 to discard.

After the 3 cut I'll play Offense to the lead.
Ras2829
5152 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Wednesday 2:03 PM
Based on my scant empirical evidence, hand size is almost identical. Slight edge in pegs and crib score that give the A-4-9-J the upper hand this day. At hole 10, it's off., off., off and play on the lead. Would pair a 9-J or 4 lead. In the former two cases, if opponent tripled, RAS would score 4 pegs (pair + 31-2). On any other X-point lead would place the Ace. On a 5-7-8 lead would play the Jack. On a trey lead would play the Ace and if deuce led would play the four spot.
Ras2829 says: Although the 8-8 does score 2 points 30.313% compared to the A-14 doing so 12.987%, the 8-8 scores nearly four times as many cribs of 12 or more. That gives the 8-8 the slightly higher average of 5.496 (1,501) 20/91 compared to A-4 5.416 (1,771) 22/91.