January 21, 2020

*** This hand was suggested by Ras2829
0-0*  ?
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Total votes: 217
thelawnet
262 votes

Joined: January 2020

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:32 AM
not great cards so let's keep the a-4 for 5 and two ten cards with it.

lead the 4, our ace is waiting if it's 14

could also go for 942a which has I think better pegging prospects
james500
3917 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:11 AM
Not the cut I wanted to see.
4 lead from the 4-A combo.
RubyTuesday
909 votes

Joined: January 2019

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:14 AM
I’ve thrown 2 9 to keep 4 points in hand. I thought about throwing 2 K but couldn’t see that it was worth losing 2 points to keep 9 and 10 together.
Gougie00
5725 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:40 AM
I wasnt expecting a 5 cut. I tossed the defensive K9 and kept the 2 for pegging. Outsmarted myself? Lead the 4.
Andy (muesli64)
2223 votes

Joined: August 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:44 AM
We need points already.
wasa
3013 votes

Joined: November 2014

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:49 AM
Very straightforward to me, until I note that this is a RAS puzzle, so I pondered tossing T-K instead of the 2-9. I don't think the lower expected crib and maybe better pegging potential outweighs the loss of 2 points so keep the sure 4 points.
dec
6353 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:31 AM
K-9 is a good balker but 9-2 isnt to shabby either. Playing mostly for the ten points possible. dec
horus93
1281 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:03 AM
Always looking for a catch in a ras puzzle but I don't see one today. Looking at the optimal discard with a typical hand at -8/+8. The cut is likely to help us both, I'd shoot for optimal pegging and lead the orthodox 4.
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:11 AM
Tossing 2-9 to opponent. This hand has 24 cuts that increase the value from 4 points to 6, 8, or 10 points. Not sur of Ras's reasoning for this submission but we will find out later.
JQT
4143 votes

Joined: October 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:19 AM
While (A 2 4 9) will surely peg better, it won't necessarily peg Two Points Better.

And Toss (2 9) gets us 'out the gate' as Pone with a bit more force.

After seeing that 5 Card Cut, I might just lead the Ten Card "T" today. This leaves us with the most variety going forward, and also rids ourselves of the card which is most likely to be 'trapped' into a later RUN.

If a 4 Card Lead were to get PAIRED here, we have no way to parry; but after the Ten Card Lead gets PAIRED, we might parry with our King and a "go" and then Mr. Ace.

And so once again, a Discarding Dilemma has possibly transmorphed into a Pegging Puzzle!
travelingman2019
513 votes

Joined: December 2018

Tuesday 10:56 AM
this one was a no-brainer for me......the 92 toss was the best and the most points in the hand.....another thought was KA and keep 94210, as you can see from cut, 8 pts vice 4, and yes, a scary cut for the pone side......
Coeurdelion
5589 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Tuesday 2:54 PM
A-2-4-9 (10-K) or A-4-10-K (2-9)?:

A-2-4-9: 2pts - 3pts (Schell: 2.84) = -1pt

A-4-10-K: 4pts - 3¾pts (Schell: 3.71) = +¼pt

Potential:

A-2-4-9: Improves with AAA, 222, 3333, 444, 5555, 6666, 8888, 999 + 14xXs = 42 cuts = 42/46 = 91.3% up to 6/8pts with AAA, 222, 3333, 444, 999 = 16 cuts.

A-4-10-K: Improves with AAA, 444, 5555 + 14xXs = 24 cuts = 24/46 = 52.2% up to 8/10pts with AAA, 444, 5555, 101010, KKK = 16 cuts.

Position:

As First Pone I'll play Offense. Positional hole is 18pts I'll try to get as close as possible.

Pegging:

I think A-2-4-9 will peg better.

Summary:

A-4-10-K has a starting value +1¼pts more than A-2-4-9 but A-2-4-9 has more cuts for improvement and should peg much better. So I'll select 10-K to discard.
HalscribCLX
5312 votes

Joined: February 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:04 PM
At 0-0* playing an Offense strategy for the pegging the dynamic expected averages and Win/Loss %s are:

_______________Our
Offense___Hand_Pegs__Crib___Total___W9 %____W10 %
A-4-10-K__6.00+1.33+(-4.59)=2.74____20.5____20.9
A-2-4-9___4.70+1.93+(-4.00)=2.63____20.6____21.0

Offense______L9 %____L10 %
A-4-10-K_____36.4____52.3
A-2-4-9______36.5____52.2

A-4-10-k is better for expected averages by 0.11pt and although A-2-4-9 is very slightly better for Win %s and Loss %s I'll decide on the expected averages and select 2-9 to discard.

After the 5 cut I'll lead the 10 and play Offense:

Lead___________Our Pegging Pts.
10__________________1.39
K___________________1.28
4___________________1.21
A___________________1.05
Ras2829
5147 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:13 PM
The only reason to hold A-4-10-K here is that we have opening deal and playing off., off., and leading the 10 spot. Why the 10 rather than the King? Note there is about .1 of a point difference in combined values even though in this case n/d starts with 4 points rather than 2 points if holding A-2-4-9. Holding this hand should not be an automatic discard choice. If playing defense, the A-2-4-9 is preferable and has the greater combined value. Note the A-2-4-9 is a slightly better choice if considering win/loss %.
Ras2829 says: BTW a major reason for the top two choices turning out to be so close is that 10-K scores 0-2 points in opponent crib 45.494%. My empirical data based on 3,884 discards to opponent in live shows an average of 3.848, even lower than that of HalscribCLX above.