June 18, 2019

*** This hand was suggested by Gougie00
55-56*  ?
77%
13%
3%
3%
1%
0%
Total votes: 204
mrob2199
1432 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:20 AM
Too many cuts give you a 14 or 16 point hand here -so you have to bite the bullet and discard the 7-8-if you break it up the most you can keep is 3,and you have to try to get down the board as much as possible from this spot-if you break up the hand to keep 8-10-j-q,and you succeed in killing your opponent’s crib,it’s most likely that you’re still trailing maybe 68-60-not exactly the spot you want to be in-take the risk and try to get to 70 with a good cut
james500 says: Hi Rob, hope all's well. Just to "pick your brains" a minute, if we were to break this hand up, why do you favour K-7 over K-8 as the discard? Is it simply the possibility of a 9 cut, or is it actually safer? Thanks in advance.
mrob2199 says: Excellent question James-I don’t know the exact numbers but it’s probably very close-actually if I were to break it up I might keep the 7 instead of the 8 for this reason-you are much more likely to get a 10 response with a 7 lead-
dec
6355 votes

Joined: April 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:38 AM
Agree. Do the dicard quickly and be rid of it. If that five of hearts had come up you be kicking yourself in the hiney. King lead, I am pretty good and lucky with pegging with faces. dec
Guest says: 4500? dec
Rosemarie44
2052 votes

Joined: March 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 3:52 AM
Even without coffee, 7-8 it is. Play our position first. Twenty cuts increases the hand 9, 14, 16 or 18 points.
joekayak
1873 votes

Joined: May 2016

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:19 AM
On third street. Halfway through the game. Must get as close to 69 as possible. Object of the game is to win the game. Keeping 8-10-J-Q greatly reduces our chances of wining the game. Don't like it. Walking on a tight rope here. But discard 8-7 and hope for the best. Lookie here. A cut for 14. Temporary success. Just hope the 7-8 doesn't hurt me too bad.
Guest says: Great commentary. S :)
james500
3920 votes

Joined: June 2013

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:02 AM
The second most valuable hand is worth a lot less than eight points, so I'll have to risk it.

10 lead.
zeke76
1393 votes

Joined: August 2018

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:16 AM
Whew. Glad I have a lot of company.
dgergens
938 votes

Joined: January 2018

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:22 AM
Sometimes you just have to risk it. It is better to give than receive after all. We gave the 7,8 gift, and look, up pops a 10 spinner.
Jazzselke
2584 votes

Joined: March 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:26 AM
No reward for the timid....
Guest says: I am not sure about that throw.
Guest says: I was. S :)
travelingman2019 says: I have been told the number to get to for good position for the upcoming deal.......70....this hold and cut get to 69 with 1 go point to get, with a face card should do that...........
mfetchCT425
1396 votes

Joined: February 2009

 
 
 
Tuesday 5:28 AM
As stated above, we need to try to get as close to 70-73 as possible. Got to keep the straight flush here worth 8 points before the cut and 14 after the nice cut. Would lead the 10 knowing there are only two left after the cut.
jmath714
1298 votes

Joined: January 2012

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:11 AM
Pretty cut and dried here considering the position. I think it would be more of a question if you were say, 62 and opponent was 66. Then it’s a riskier proposition.
Gougie00
5727 votes

Joined: March 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 6:27 AM
Too many experts today. I figured if I have 8 in the hand, then the 2 other cards gots to go. Curl your nose and toss the suited 7-8. Lead the 10 only because one was cut.
glmccuskey
4098 votes

Joined: April 2011

 
 
 
Tuesday 7:54 AM
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jmath714 says: Congrats on 3,000 votes!
horus93
1281 votes

Joined: December 2017

 
 
 
Tuesday 8:02 AM
RP is -5/+12 and this is a sweet flush. Offense to the cut, let's try to get past the next par of 70.
horus93 says: And I'd lead the ten because I think dealers are more likely to hold K's in hand than other ten cards and if he has one and doesn't have a five that's his likely response to avoid giving up a run, then I can pair it.
Ras2829
5151 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 10:13 AM
Playing position makes decision making a cinch here an elsewhere. With dealer at my shoulder, need 14 points to deal in 3rd Street CPZ (69-73). With the cut of any of these cards am holding, have my 14. Not much pegging potential here although dealer will sometimes play a King on a 10 spot lead if not holding a five to 15. As horus93 points out dealer will often hold a King with a variety of cards (6-7-8-J-Q-K, A-4-4-10-J-K, 2-3-3-J-Q-K, 2-3-4-10-J-K, and thousands of more such combinations. A simple pegging tip results in many pegs in your corner. When leading a King, do so from a pair. Many non-dealers transpose the thinking that applies to their hand to that of the dealer. They think since as n/d they seldom hold a King, that must also be the case for the dealer. Thus lead a single key when they have better choices in hand and give up a pair very often. Change you thinking to accommodate that two very different games are going on with discards, hand retention, and pegs. And they don't look much alike!
Guest says: thank you for the advice I like to keep 10-J-Q to also trap a nine. With their lead here I tend to believe they will play off here anyway. dec
Ras2829
5151 votes

Joined: November 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 10:15 AM
BTW if you encounter the work "key" above, that should read "King".
cribbagepogo
3251 votes

Joined: October 2007

 
 
 
Tuesday 2:03 PM
Hold your breath. Lots of 24's made with 7/8.
LoneStarPegger
811 votes

Joined: January 2008

 
 
 
Tuesday 4:35 PM
Duly noted... Learning has occurred.