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Total votes: 175 |
Rosemarie44 2052 votes Joined: March 2016 |
    Friday 3:16 AM
Going with expected averages and tossing 4-Q to my crib. Hand starts at 4 points and has a maximum of 16 points. Thirteen cuts gives the hand 10 12, or 16 points (5555, 77 AAA, 8888). |
mrob2199 1433 votes Joined: February 2009 |
    Friday 3:32 AM
With a garbage hand like this I prefer to hedge my bets and throw 2 in the crib with 2 in my hand rather than the 4 points of A-6-7-7-If I cut an 8 I’ll be thrilled anyway so I’m playing for the crib and looking for a 6 or 8 point output |
dec 6356 votes Joined: April 2008 |
    Friday 4:07 AM
Balance for me also. That eight cut in hindsight would make me sad too. dec |
zeke76 1394 votes Joined: August 2018 |
    Friday 4:14 AM
A4. zeke76 says: Brown averages:
A4:10.2
66: 9.8
67: 9.2
Q4: 8.9
AQ: 8.4 james500 says: Hiya Zeke, hope you're well. I don't know if it's a typo on here, or whether you selected a wrong card on the other site, but there's no 6-6 discard option. 7-7 maybe? zeke76 says: Selected the wrong card on the other site, which of course completely changes the results (I should have know-Rosemarie isn't wrong about expected averages):
Q4: 10.6
77: 10.2
A4: 10.1
Q6: 9.4
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Gougie00 5728 votes Joined: March 2008 |
    Friday 5:03 AM
I'll try it this way. I was thinking an 8 would the the starter and I wanted to maximize.
There is a shot to trap a 5 if I hold that 6-7 together. |
glmccuskey 4099 votes Joined: April 2011 |
    Friday 5:10 AM
Wanted to keep the 6-7-7 together and I like A-4 in the crib. Offense to the lead. |
james500 3921 votes Joined: June 2013 |
    Friday 6:28 AM
I'll keep the Ace in my hand. |
Andy (muesli64) 2223 votes Joined: August 2009 |
    Friday 7:57 AM
I chose to throw 4-Q. Keeping the ace in hand for a 7 or 8 cut! Just a guess! |
RubyTuesday 911 votes Joined: January 2019 |
    Friday 8:01 AM
I wanted to throw A 4 to my crib but decided to throw Q 4 in the hope I’d get more points in play. |
wasa 3016 votes Joined: November 2014 |
    Friday 10:24 AM
As others said, keep the 6-7-7 together. Then decision over A-4 vs 4-Q. Kept the A to work with my 7-7. |
dgergens 938 votes Joined: January 2018 |
    Friday 10:46 AM
Once I decided to keep the 6,7,7 together, I decided A,4 in the crib would be worth more than the 2 pts sacrificed. And certainly worth more than 4,Q in the crib. dgergens says: Looking forward to the numbers. I may have to revisit/refine my thought process when deciding to gamble on the crib vs keep the bird in the hand. |
joekayak 1873 votes Joined: May 2016 |
    Friday 12:30 PM
Really close. I like the arguments both ways. Balance the crib and hand by throwing Ace-4 or keep the 4 in hand by throwing Q-4. I will be very interested in just how close this is when the computer comes on board. joekayak says: That should read ...keep the 4 POINTS in hand.... |
horus93 1281 votes Joined: December 2017 |
    Friday 1:21 PM
I'll cop to NOT particularly liking A-4 in the crib. Ras2829 says: Hi horus93: Very good pegging hand includes 2-card 11,3 card 11, and a "sweet sixteen". The pegging potential ought to be enough to offset other scoring potentials with other choices. More later. Rosemarie44 says: There you go again -bragging about your pegging abilities! joekayak says: Interesting. Ace-4-6-X can easily lead to 4 pegging points but all the rest of us seem to want to keep 6-7-7 together with a fourth card either the Q or the Ace. A-4-6 does not necessarily lead to 4 pegging points and I wonder how the potential of 6-7-7 in hand compares to the pegging potential of A-4-6. |
LoneStarPegger 811 votes Joined: January 2008 |
    Friday 3:29 PM
Thanks for the excellent discussion! I'm working on my ability to spot pegging hands that are potentially more valuable than the counting points. |
Ras2829 5151 votes Joined: November 2008 |
    Saturday 1:16 AM
If you noted my reply to horus93 post, you had a good idea where I was heading. Am playing off., off., off. (all those off. are offense) and play on the lead. Based on my scant empirical evidence holding the A-4-6-Q has considerably better offensive pegging potential than holding A-6-7-7. And the potential crib score of 7-7 is miles apart from the lowly 4-Q. The 7-7 averages 5.873 (1,372) 13/91 and 4-Q 3.635 (438) 77/91. True the potential hand score of holding A-6-7-7 is greater; it just cannot make up for the deficits in potential pegging and crib scores. Had hoped that HalscribCLX would have weighed in by now so you could see the numbers. Appreciate as usual the level of participation. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. See ya on the morrow. |